wow with t-mac in, we can't even win games like the grizzlies! With t-mac out we can win games against the celtics! T-mac slows the game down a little which ruins the ball movement and the fact that he's out then comes back in ruins the team chemistry. T-mac either you're in or you rest a month and then come back! I'm not liking this consistency of not knowing if t-mac will play or not. I don't want a Horrible playing t-mac to play injured!
You can't argue with the statistics. In previous years when other members would complain about tmac I would pull up the stats and show that his presence did make the team better. He is just getting off an injury. It's not fair to judge him this early on, especially with only 1/2 a season's stats of an injuried tmac. If you look at the past 3 years we have been terrible with out tmac. I can totally understand everyone's frustration, but I still think its a bit too premature to start giving up on him. If the numbers don't get better this year or next year, we may have to start shopping players and start rebuilding.
But if you factor the entire season, its in the positive. Why just take 11 games in which he was in and out of injuries and judges his whole season? That doesn't make sense.
Because we judge him from his recent form, fans should stop thinking the Orlando days or even the 22 streak coz now we are not going anywhere. Even if he can pull up great numbers, so what? He is just like AI, look what happens to Piston and Nuggets.......... T-mac should go because he IS hurting the team AT THIS MOMENT!!!!!!!!!!
That's bs. To take the entire season into account instead of a 10 game snapshot has nothing to do with him playing for the Magic or even last year. You can pull a 10 game snapshot of almost any player in the league and make a case that they hurt their team. If you have an half season worth of data you use that entire data pool. If you want to properly examine anything it is always better to have more data then less. Take last night for instance, the amount of lay-ups the team missed can't be blamed on Tracy. Artest shooting 1-10 and Battier getting burned by Mayo can't be blamed on Tracy either. But people who insist he is a cancer will use a poor game by the team as a sign that it was the fact that Tracy was back that hurt the team. Really there is no telling how many of the guys on the team were playing with some sort of flu-like symptoms.
The +/- stats are deceiving. If you went by those for last nights game, Artest was the second most productive player (after Deke) with a rating of -2, even though he went 1/10. The loss last night was a team loss, and everyone with the exception of maybe Yao, is responsible in some way for the performance. To place the blame squarely on McGrady is ridiculous.
What stats are included in the +/- computation? If it isn't just a players shooting stats then I can see how guys with terrible shooting nights can overcome that in the overall +/- rating.
please don't blame T-MAC .It is not his fault.Yes,he has the responsibility for getting the victory.BUT!I think all the rockets men have the duty as well.And,to remind you one thing,don't you see T-MAC is getting better?
My point is that he's only had 4 triple doubles his 12 years in the league. Some act like as soon as he's healthy he's gonna put up a triple double. The fact is that he probably won't. 12 years, 4 triple doubles which equals about 1 triple double every 4 years or so. Tracy lovers are given stats over and over but they just refuse to believe them. They only focus on the games where he puts up 20 points or more but forget the games like last night were he was 9 for 21 and had 21pts. You guys call that a good game for Tracy, I on the other hand do not, we still lost and Tracy took to many shots.
+/- over one game usually tell you very little, but over the course of a season they can tell you much more. What the +/- calculates is the point differential during a players time on the court. For example, if all the starters played the entire first quarter last night which ended with a 31-31 score, then they all would end that quarter with a 0 +/-. But lets say Battier stayed in for the first 4 minutes of the second quarter and the team was outscored by 4 points in that time span. Then Battier would now be a -4. That wouldn't exactly mean he played bad, but it could be that the bench guys struggled and since he was on the court with them at the time he would get a -4 along with them. Many times +/- isn't as much about how well a particular player has played but more who they spent most of thier time on the court with. Scola plays more minutes with Yao then Landry does so if Yao has a strong +/- then Scola will benefit from that and it will make his +/- that much better then Landry's.
<br> For what it is worth, at least he's playing better than Ron freaking Artest.. <br> I'm not even going to defend McGrady.. Everyone can see his glaring problems. <br> I want you to do one thing for me though.. Pull up some numbers on Ron Artest and we'll see just how much he plays like crap
whether or not #96 sucks has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that #1 sucks which is what's in discussion here.
We don't need numbers to see how had he was tonight. Sadly he wasn't the only bad player tonight. Yao Rafer Battier All had bad games just like T-mac.
<br> Pull up some numbers if you can.. <br> I'll do some research too, but I have class tomorrow, so it will take me a while
its not that hard, if you are suppose to be our best scorer and go 1-9, then you hurt the team. against the Bucks!
<br> Good thing Yao is our best scorer, and he went 2-8.. <br> The team in general is playing like crap.. You can't blame EVERYTHING on Tracy McGrady <br> Somewhere down the line, you have to admit fault to the other too.. <br> Not saying McGrady hasn't been a huge disappointment, because he has
Trade him for another person that wears the number 1 jersey also. That'll stick it to him. Do it! T-Mac, as poorly as he has played this season, deserves to be in the NBA hall of shame. NBA contracts should not be guaranteed. Look at these "stars" after they get a contract.
