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NPD December Video Game Sales

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  1. RC Cola

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    Hardware
    PS2 410K
    PS3 726K
    PSP 1.02M
    X360 1.44M
    Wii 2.15M
    DS 3.04M

    Software
    WII PLAY W/ REMOTE 1.46M
    360 CALL OF DUTY: WORLD AT WAR 1.33M
    WII FIT W/ BALANCE BOARD 999K
    WII MARIO KART W/ WHEEL 878K
    WII GUITAR HERO WORLD TOUR 859K
    360 GEARS OF WAR 2 745K
    360 LEFT 4 DEAD 629K
    NDS MARIO KART 540K
    PS3 CALL OF DUTY: WORLD AT WAR 533K
    WII ANIMAL CROSSING: CITY FOLK 497K
     
  2. KaiSeR SoZe

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    Whats up with the wii man

    I got bored of it after awhile
     
  3. BiGGieStuFF

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    Not a lot of PS3 games sold :(
     
  4. RC Cola

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    EviLore at NeoGAF added in some extra info, such as Top 10 Game of the Year:

    Top selling games of 2008

    WII PLAY W/ REMOTE 5.28M
    WII MARIO KART W/ WHEEL 5.00M
    WII FIT W/ BALANCE BOARD 4.53M
    WII SUPER SMASH BROS: BRAWL 4.17M
    360 GRAND THEFT AUTO IV 3.29M*
    360 CALL OF DUTY: WORLD AT WAR 2.75M*
    360 GEARS OF WAR 2 2.31M*
    PS3 GRAND THEFT AUTO IV 1.89M*
    360 MADDEN NFL 09 1.87M*
    NDS MARIO KART 1.65M

    *Includes Collector's, Limited, Legendary, and Bundled Editions

    edit: Oh yeah, YTD numbers (2007 numbers for reference):
    2008:

    Wii 10.15 million (+61%)
    360 4.73 million (+2.3%)
    PS3 3.54 million (+38%)
    PS2 2.50 million ( - 37%)
    NDS 9.95 million ( +17% )
    PSP 3.83 million ( 0% )

    2007:

    Wii 6.29 million
    360 4.62 million
    PS2 3.97 million
    PS3 2.56 million
    NDS 8.50 million
    PSP 3.82 million

    Credit to Private Hoffman at NeoGAF for these numbers.

    Nope. Granted, the userbases somewhat skew things, but PS3 game sales seem to be to be pretty poor (at least relative to the 360). Kind of bothers me that games like R2, LBP, MGS4, etc., aren't on those lists. Sales seem to be better in other regions from time to time, at least from what I could tell.

    Speaking of which, since these are the last of 2008 sales, I think I'll try to post some sales from Europe (or possibly only UK) and Japan later on.
     
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  5. RC Cola

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    UK Hardware:
    2008
    PSP - 0.6m
    PS3 - 1.0m
    360 - 1.4m
    Wii - 2.9m
    DS - 3.4m

    LTD
    PS3 - 1.9m
    360 - 3.2m
    PSP - 3.2m
    Wii - 4.9m
    DS - 8.8m

    European/PAL numbers as a whole seem a little harder to pinpoint, but I believe it is basically (LTD):
    DS 31M
    Wii 14.2M
    360 8M+
    PS3 7M+?
    Didn't get any specific Sony numbers (360 was at 8M+, ~1M more than PS3), so no PSP/PS2 numbers (unless I do some more searching).


    Japan (YTD/LTD)
    NDS 4,177,267 | 25,350,321
    PSP 3,850,175 | 11,515,252
    WII 2,982,727 | 7,598,866
    PS3 1,041,406 | 2,683,082
    360 341,789 | 850,234
    PS2 485,032 | 21,412,072

    Don't really have software numbers, especially from Europe. I can post the latest weekly Japanese sales, which include some LTD numbers for Wii Fit, Mario Kart, Animal Crossing, GT5P, White Knight Chronicles, Final Fantasy Dissidia, etc.


    Also, the PS2 hit the 50M mark in the US.
     
  6. RC Cola

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    Got some more numbers (mostly LTD)...

    http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=21937
    According to this, MGS4 is at ~1M in the US (not counting bundles), and both LBP and R2 are at ~600K. Not quite as bad as I was thinking, although still far off from similar games on the 360 (L4D sold 600K+ in December alone). LBP sales were somewhat consistent (December sales were bigger than October sales actually), so hopefully is has some long legs in the US (already has long legs in the UK/Europe). More details at the link, including sales for PoP and Tomb Raider (483K and 246K).

    There was a top 20 list for December, as well as a top 10 list for each console (also during December). Thanks to various details on games, sales for some of the games on the rankings can be estimated. Here are those lists (credit to botticus and others at NeoGAF for calculating these numbers):
    (long list, so spoiler tagged)
    Top 20 Games of December 2008

    1. WII PLAY W/ REMOTE WII NINTENDO OF AMERICA - 1.46 million
    2. CALL OF DUTY: WORLD AT WAR* 360 ACTIVISION BLIZZARD - 1.33 million
    3. WII FIT WII NINTENDO OF AMERICA - 999k
    4. MARIO KART WII NINTENDO OF AMERICA - 878k
    5. GUITAR HERO WORLD TOUR* WII ACTIVISION BLIZZARD - 859k
    6. GEARS OF WAR 2* 360 MICROSOFT - 745k
    7. LEFT 4 DEAD 360 ELECTRONIC ARTS - 629k
    8. MARIO KART NDS NINTENDO OF AMERICA - 540k
    9. CALL OF DUTY: WORLD AT WAR PS3 ACTIVISION BLIZZARD - 533k
    10. ANIMAL CROSSING: CITY FOLK* WII NINTENDO OF AMERICA - 497k
    11. WII MUSIC WII NINTENDO OF AMERICA - 487k
    12. NEW SUPER MARIO BROS NDS NINTENDO OF AMERICA - 255k-487k
    13. PERSONAL TRAINER: COOKING NDS NINTENDO OF AMERICA - 255k-487k
    14. FALLOUT 3* 360 BETHESDA SOFTWORKS - 255k-487k
    15. CLUB PENGUIN: ELITE PENGUIN FORCE NDS DISNEY INTERACTIVE STUDIOS - 255k-487k
    16. LINK'S CROSSBOW TRAINING WII NINTENDO OF AMERICA - 255k-487k
    17. GUITAR HERO WORLD TOUR* PS2 ACTIVISION BLIZZARD - 255k-487k
    18. MADDEN NFL 09* 360 ELECTRONIC ARTS - 255k-487k
    19. CALL OF DUTY: WORLD AT WAR WII ACTIVISION BLIZZARD - 255k-487k
    20. SHAUN WHITE SNOWBOARDING: ROAD TRIP WII UBISOFT - 255k-487k

    Top 10 Wii Games

    1. WII WII PLAY W/ REMOTE NINTENDO OF AMERICA - 1.46 million
    2. WII WII FIT NINTENDO OF AMERICA - 999k
    3. WII MARIO KART NINTENDO OF AMERICA - 878k
    4. WII GUITAR HERO WORLD TOUR* ACTIVISION BLIZZARD - 859k
    5. WII ANIMAL CROSSING: CITY FOLK* NINTENDO OF AMERICA - 497k
    6. WII WII MUSIC NINTENDO OF AMERICA - 487k
    7. WII LINK'S CROSSBOW TRAINING NINTENDO OF AMERICA - 255k-487k
    8. WII CALL OF DUTY: WORLD AT WAR ACTIVISION BLIZZARD - 255k-487k
    9. WII SHAUN WHITE SNOWBOARDING: ROAD TRIP UBISOFT - 255k-487k
    10. WII NERF N STRIKE ELECTRONIC ARTS

    Top 10 Xbox 360 Games

    1. 360 CALL OF DUTY: WORLD AT WAR* ACTIVISION BLIZZARD - 1.33 million
    2. 360 GEARS OF WAR 2* MICROSOFT - 745k
    3. 360 LEFT 4 DEAD ELECTRONIC ARTS - 629k
    4. 360 FALLOUT 3* BETHESDA SOFTWORKS - 255k-487k
    5. 360 MADDEN NFL 09* ELECTRONIC ARTS - 255k-487k
    6. 360 GUITAR HERO WORLD TOUR* ACTIVISION BLIZZARD - 228k-487k
    7. 360 MORTAL KOMBAT VS. DC UNIVERSE* MIDWAY - 228k-487k
    8. 360 ROCK BAND 2* MTV GAMES/ELECTRONIC ARTS - 228k-487k
    9. 360 FABLE II* MICROSOFT - 228k-487k
    10. 360 PRINCE OF PERSIA* UBISOFT - 228k-270k

    Top 10 PlayStation 2 Games

    1. PS2 GUITAR HERO WORLD TOUR* ACTIVISION BLIZZARD - 255k-487k
    2. PS2 MADDEN NFL 09 ELECTRONIC ARTS
    3. PS2 KINGDOM HEARTS RE: CHAIN OF MEMORIES SQUARE ENIX INC
    4. PS2 WWE SMACKDOWN VS. RAW 2009 THQ
    5. PS2 ROCK BAND* MTV GAMES/ELECTRONIC ARTS
    6. PS2 ACTION/ADVENTURE BUNDLE MULTIPLE VIDEO GAME MANUFACTURER
    7. PS2 SONIC UNLEASHED SEGA OF AMERICA
    8. PS2 LEGO BATMAN WARNER INTERACTIVE
    9. PS2 CALL OF DUTY: WORLD AT WAR FINAL FRONTS ACTIVISION BLIZZARD
    10. PS2 GUITAR HERO AEROSMITH* ACTIVISION BLIZZARD

    Top 10 PlayStation 3 Games

    1. PS3 CALL OF DUTY: WORLD AT WAR ACTIVISION BLIZZARD - 533k
    2. PS3 MORTAL KOMBAT VS. DC UNIVERSE* MIDWAY - 255k-487k
    3. PS3 LITTLE BIG PLANET SONY - 255k
    4. PS3 PRINCE OF PERSIA* UBISOFT - 213k-255k
    5. PS3 GUITAR HERO WORLD TOUR* ACTIVISION BLIZZARD - 213k-255k
    6. PS3 RESISTANCE 2* SONY - 213k
    7. PS3 MADDEN NFL 09* ELECTRONIC ARTS - < 213k
    8. PS3 FALLOUT 3* BETHESDA SOFTWORKS - < 213k
    9. PS3 ROCK BAND 2* MTV GAMES/ELECTRONIC ARTS - < 213k
    10. PS3 NEED FOR SPEED: UNDERCOVER ELECTRONIC ARTS - < 213k

    Top 10 Nintendo DS Games

    1. NDS MARIO KART NINTENDO OF AMERICA - 540k
    2. NDS NEW SUPER MARIO BROS NINTENDO OF AMERICA - 255k-487k
    3. NDS PERSONAL TRAINER: COOKING NINTENDO OF AMERICA - 255k-487k
    4. NDS CLUB PENGUIN: ELITE PENGUIN FORCE DISNEY INTERACTIVE STUDIOS - 255k-487k
    5. NDS KIRBY SUPER STAR ULTRA NINTENDO OF AMERICA
    6. NDS POKEMON RANGER: SHADOWS OF ALMIA NINTENDO OF AMERICA
    7. NDS BRAIN AGE 2: MORE TRAINING IN MINUTES A DAY NINTENDO OF AMERICA
    8. NDS MARIO PARTY NINTENDO OF AMERICA
    9. NDS GUITAR HERO ON TOUR DECADES* ACTIVISION BLIZZARD
    10. NDS BRAIN AGE: TRAIN YOUR BRAIN IN MINUTES A DAY NINTENDO OF AMERICA

    Top 10 PSP Games

    1. PSP MADDEN NFL 09 ELECTRONIC ARTS
    2. PSP WWE SMACKDOWN VS. RAW 2009 THQ
    3. PSP LEGO BATMAN WARNER INTERACTIVE
    4. PSP MIDNIGHT CLUB: LA REMIX TAKE 2 INTERACTIVE
    5. PSP STAR WARS: THE FORCE UNLEASHED LUCASARTS
    6. PSP IRON MAN SEGA OF AMERICA
    7. PSP NEED FOR SPEED: UNDERCOVER ELECTRONIC ARTS
    8. PSP NBA LIVE 09 ELECTRONIC ARTS
    9. PSP GRAND THEFT AUTO: LIBERTY CITY STORIES TAKE 2 INTERACTIVE
    10. PSP GRAND THEFT AUTO: VICE CITY STORIES TAKE 2 INTERACTIVE

    Famitsu also posted the top 100 game sales for 2008 in Japan:
    (again, spoiler tagged)
    01. [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2nd G (Capcom) 2,452,111
    02. [NDS] Pokemon Platinum (Pokemon) 2,187,337
    03. [WII] Wii Fit (Nintendo) 2,149,131 / 2,967,297
    04. [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo) 2,003,315
    05. [WII] Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Nintendo) 1,747,113
    06. [NDS] Rhythm Heaven (Nintendo) 1,350,671
    07. [NDS] Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride (Square Enix) 1,176,082
    08. [WII] Animal Crossing: City Folk (Nintendo) 895,302
    09. [NDS] Kirby Super Star Ultra (Nintendo) 855,427
    10. [WII] Wii Sports (Nintendo) 841,736 / 3,306,470

    11. [PS3] Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots (Konami) 686,254
    12. [PSP] Dissidia: Final Fantasy (Square Enix) 660,262
    13. [NDS] Pokemon Ranger: Shadows of Almia (Pokemon) 636,777
    14. [PSP] Phantasy Star Portable (Sega) 633,954
    15. [NDS] Professor Layton and the Last Time Travel (Level 5) 628,143
    16. [NDS] Mario Kart DS (Nintendo) 621,890 / 3,317,318
    17. [WII] Wii Play (Nintendo) 602,625 / 2,593,294
    18. [NDS] Mario Party DS (Nintendo) 599,621 / 1,832,265
    19. [NDS] Wagamama Fashion: Girl's Mode (Nintendo) 549,348
    20. [PS2] Super Robot Taisen Z (Bandai Namco) 480,093

    21. [NDS] Meccha! Taiko no Tatsujin DS: 7-tsu no Shima no Daibouken (Bandai Namco) 444,133
    22. [NDS] Chrono Trigger (Square Enix) 433,988
    23. [NDS] DS Bimoji Training (Nintendo) 425,272
    24. [NDS] Daigasso! Band Brothers DX (Nintendo) 424,477
    25. [PS2] Warriors Orochi 2 (Koei) 411,019
    26. [NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo) 377,034 / 5,372,187
    27. [NDS] Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games (Nintendo) 376,632
    28. [PSP] Kidou Senshi Gundam: Gundam vs. Gundam (Bandai Namco) 357,783
    29. [NDS] Animal Crossing: Wild World (Nintendo) 338,531 / 4,852,053
    30. [WII] Wii Music (Nintendo) 323,882

    31. [PS3] Devil May Cry 4 (Capcom) 310,012
    32. [PS3] Pro Evolution Soccer 2009 (Konami) 297,896
    33. [PS2] Persona 4 (Atlus) 294,214
    34. [PSP] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Yakyuu Portable 3 (Konami) 286,901
    35. [NDS] Derby Stallion DS (Enterbrain) 286,682
    36. [PS2] Dynasty Warriors: Gundam (Bandai Namco) 277,182
    37. [PS3] Ryu ga Gotoku Kenzan! (Sega) 270,438
    38. [WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) 256,832 / 1,310,766
    39. [NDS] Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon (Nintendo) 252,309
    40. [PSP] Gundam Battle Universe (Bandai Namco) 252,092

    41. [WII] Taiko no Tatsujin Wii (Bandai Namco) 251,083
    42. [NDS] Professor Layton and the Devil's Box (Level 5) 250,616 / 865,954
    43. [NDS] Taiko no Tatsujin DS: Touch de Dokodon! (Bandai Namco) 245,829 / 524,827
    44. [WII] Deca Sports (Hudson) 241,701
    45. [NDS] Bokura wa Kaseki Holder (Nintendo) 240,176
    46. [NDS] Little Magicians Magic Adventure (Konami) 233,449
    47. [WII] Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games (Nintendo) 231,056 / 594,157
    48. [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2 (Capcom) 230,499 / 1,720,397
    49. [NDS] Inazuma Eleven (Level 5) 229,011
    50. [WII] Link's Crossbow Training (Nintendo) 227,621

    51. [NDS] Pokemon Diamond/Pearl (Pokemon) 227,226 / 5,624,430
    52. [PS3] Gran Turismo 5 Prologue: Spec III (SCE) 223,837
    53. [PS2] Dynasty Warriors 6 (Koei) 223,328 / 555,496
    54. [NDS] Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time/Darkness (Pokemon) 223,328 / 1,479,844
    55. [PS2] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Yakyuu 15 (Konami) 213,551
    56. [NDS] Tokoton Kanji Brain (IE Institute) 213,088 / 324,351
    57. [WII] Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World (Bandai Namco) 212,408
    58. [NDS] Flash Focus: Vision Training in Minutes a Day (Nintendo) 209,812 / 939,125
    59. [PS3] Dynasty Warriors: Gundam 2 (Bandai Namco) 206,438
    60. [WII] Mario Super Sluggers (Nintendo) 204,553

    61. [PS3] White Knight Chronicles (SCE) 203,033
    62. [PS2] Pro Yakyuu Spirits 5 (Konami) 199,789
    63. [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2nd G, PSP the Best (Capcom) 199,117
    64. [WII] Super Mario Galaxy (Nintendo) 197,422 / 945,106
    65. [PS2] J-League Winning Eleven 2008 Club Championship (Konami) 196,788
    66. [PS3] Grand Theft Auto IV (Capcom) 195,779
    67. [PSP] Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 (Konami) 190,140
    68. [NDS] Dragon Ball DS (Bandai Namco) 185,229
    69. [NDS] Brain Age 2 (Nintendo) 184,560 / 4,967,131
    70. [NDS] Ganbaru Watashi no Kakei Diary (Nintendo) 180,563 / 550,022

    71. [NDS] Tottadoo! Yoiko no Mujintou Seikatsu (Bandai Namco) 179,007
    72. [NDS] Tales of Hearts: CG Movie Edition/Anime Movie Edition (Bandai Namco) 176,526
    73. [NDS] Quiz Magic Academy (Konami) 175,636
    74. [NDS] Final Fantasy IV (Square Enix) 175,388 / 622,475
    75. [NDS] Ryuusei no RockMan 3: Black Ace/Red Joker (Capcom) 174,426
    76. [PSP] Kidou Senshi Gundam: Giren no Yabou - Axis no Kyoui (Bandai Namco) 174,107
    77. [PSP] Super Robot Taisen A Portable (Bandai Namco) 171,475
    78. [PS3] Dragon Ball Z: Burst Limit (Bandai Namco) 163,010
    79. [NDS] Professor Layton and the Curious Village (Level 5) 162,839 / 928,597
    80. [PSP] Warriors Orochi (Koei) 162,403

    81. [NDS] Dragon Quest IV: Chapters of the Chosen (Square Enix) 161,783 / 1,214,610
    82. [360] Tales of Vesperia (Bandai Namco) 161,070
    83. [NDS] SimCity DS 2: Kodai kara Mirai e Tsuduku Machi (EA) 159,245
    84. [NDS] Penguin no Mondai: Saikyou Penguin Densetsu! (Konami) 154,987
    85. [NDS] Tamagotchi Kira Kira Omisecchi (Bandai Namco) 154,939
    86. [NDS] Bokujou Monogatari: Kira Kira Taiyou to Nakama Tachi (Marvelous) 154,525
    87. [PSP] Macross Ace Frontier (Bandai Namco) 149,131
    88. [PSP] Yuusha no Namaikida 2 (SCE) 146,767
    89. [NDS] Etrian Odyssey II: Heroes of Lagaard (Atlus) 145,421
    90. [PSP] Star Ocean 2: Second Evolution (Square Enix) 143,424

    91. [NDS] Nintendogs (Nintendo) 142,591 / 1,850,984
    92. [PS2] Tales of Destiny: Director's Cut (Bandai Namco) 142,301
    93. [PS3] Valkyria Chronicles (Sega) 141,589
    94. [NDS] Brain Age (Nintendo 140,992 / 3,750,890
    95. [PS2] Suzumiya Haruhi no Tomadoi (Bandai Namco) 139,425
    96. [NDS] Saka-Tsuku DS: Touch and Direct (Sega) 137,051
    97. [NDS] Valkyrie Profile: Covenant of the Plume (Square Enix) 136,948
    98. [PS2] Ryu ga Gotoku 2, PlayStation 2 the Best (Sega) 136,809 / 201,866
    99. [NDS] Zaidan Houjin Nippon Kanji Nouryoku Kentei Kyoukai Kounin: KanKen DS 2 + Jouyou Kanji Jiten (Rocket Company) 136,750 / 297 873
    100. [PS2] Pro Evolution Soccer 2009 (Konami) 135,128 / 680,152
    If it wasn't obvious, the games with two numbers listed have the format YTD/LTD

    A little bit of information overload, but still good stuff. It is usually hard to get nice software numbers.
     
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    how many people are buying the PS3 as a bluray player?
    I know people with both 360/PS3 and the PS3 is mainly used for the DVD/Bluray entertainment.

    Now that they have decent bluray players in the $200-$300 range, did that decrease the sales of the PS3 as the #1 'affordable' bluray option?

    I was talking to some dude at CES and he told me the difference between his Sony ES Bluray player ($1000) to a PS3 or any other. its all products of scale, if you have a home theater room with super expensive and high end audio, you get the $1000 bluray player to get the most out of the advanced sound processing.
     
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    Wow, the 360 is whooping the PS3.
     
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    Kind of tough to say for sure. This definitely has been a factor, although we don't know to what degree. It certainly would account for the "lower-than-expected" sales of PS3 games compared to the 360, although I do think that in general, PS3 gamers do not buy as many games as 360 gamers. Nor do they seem to gravitate to the big name games as much. At least in the US (gamers in Europe and Japan have different "behavior" of course).

    Sales didn't really decrease (at least, not in an unusual way) these last few months IIRC, but that was due to the holiday boom (or possibly leftover MGS4/PS2 BC momentum in earlier months). Sales could have been higher though. For example, the PS3 sold much better in 2008 than in 2007, but it sold better in Dec 2007 than it did in Dec 2008. Perhaps Dec 07 through parts of 08 were influenced strongly by Blu-ray?
     
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    Kids are a huge market.
     
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    At what point do software companies further feed the PS3's decline by making fewer games for the system? Is everyone assuming that Sony will eventually cut the price low enough to make PS3 sales explode?
     
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    well KillZone should help system sales, plus let's not forget that this game is coming out too

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    I think I pointed this out in the other thread, but even at these sales, there's no point in killing PS3 support IMO, at least for most games (certain exceptions may apply). I believe in general, sales are like 65-35 between the 360 and PS3 versions of multiplatform games (EX: ~650K for 360, ~350K for PS3, adding up to 1M total). With the increasing costs to make games, the 360 version of a game would not result in a profit. And even if it does, a PS3 version would likely add a nice amount of money to that profit. Given how much work most developers have already spent on multiplatform engines and tools, it seems pointless not to release PS3 games given the cost. This is partly why we have so many games on both consoles.

    All that's assuming these current ratios. The PS3 may cut into that ratio over time, and of course, some games will not result in the same ratio (as mentioned in the link, Prince of Persia was 50-50). Additionally, these are only referring to US sales. Sales in Japan and possibly Europe would favor the PS3, and depending on the game, this can mean a world of difference (EX: MGS4 could have sold 700K/300K in the US, but then maybe 200K/500K in Japan and 300K/400K in Europe...assuming it was 360/PS3). Home could have an influence too, although that might be too early to predict.

    The worldwide ratio would have to be really bad for the PS3 for publishers to start dropping it I think. If anything, I think publishers might make more 360 exclusives multiplatform rather than dropping PS3 support....if that is even possible.

    I am interested to see how KZ2 affects sales. Given past PS3 games, I certainly wouldn't be foolish enough to expect crazy sales. That said, it probably is the 2nd best known PS3 game, next to MGS4. MGS4-esque numbers would be nice for sure...of course, that would apply to virtually any game.

    SFIV, RE5, and a few other games should help as well, although they'll likely be helping sales for both the 360 and PS3.
     
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    Me too. Ive logged 8hrs max on my Wii since owning near launch. I guess I should have given Mario Galaxy a shot but meh.
     
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    Gotcha, but if publishers increase the number 360 exclusive games, that could be problematic.

    I guess your point is the global ratios are high enough that the PS3 is worth it for publishers and the ratios will likely improve as time goes by.
     
  16. tested911

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    You know why the Wii is so Hot

    1. Young kids ( population is ever growing )
    2. Old Folks
    3. Adult fun factor on a level they can understand

    and the ultimate why

    Zelda Twilight princess Hack ( Look it up on google,youtube )
     
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    Why would they do that? As I tried pointing out, they'd likely prefer to release on both platforms rather than just the 360. Of course, I'm assuming that Microsoft wouldn't be involved in any of these decisions. That could certainly change things...

    To further illustrate my point, in December, COD:WaW sold 1.33M on the 360 and 533K on the PS3. This is actually beyond the 66-33 split, around 70-30 if I did my math right. If they made $20 per PS3 copy sold (pretty conservative IIRC, think it might be closer to $30), then they made ~$10M by creating a PS3 version. Granted, they're making more than twice that with the 360 version, but it would probably be hard to turn down an extra $10M*. And again, these are strictly US sales.

    Of course, I suppose it is possible that a portion of the 533K that bought COD for the PS3 might have bought it for the 360 had a PS3 version not existed. IOW, creating the PS3 version may not have increased overall sales much, if at all...it may have just split them. But it is hard to prove this, let alone predict it.
    Sort of. US ratios are high enough for it to be worth it for publishers from what I can tell. I just threw in some global ratios to show how, in some instances, multiplatform games sell better on the PS3 than the 360 (or the same in some cases). It would certainly be foolish to stop supporting the PS3 in that case.

    Suppose there could be some cases where a game sells something like 80-20 in the US, but maybe 70-30 or 60-40 around the world...although I don't think that has come close to happening. Maybe with really late ports or something (Oblivion, BioShock, etc.).
     
  18. tested911

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    I just bought one 2 weeks ago for the blueray.. I figured for a decent (average) blueray player is around $250 so paying $316 for a PS3 was a no brainer.. Now I have all 3 systems which I can't believe. I have to admit though the 360 online capabilities run rings around the PS3.. I mean downloading demos,games on the 360 vs PS3 is night and day. Also Lag on Street Figher HD is a lot more noticeable on the PS3 than on the 360 (Yes I bought SFHD for both systems (Different friends)).. But man BlueRay looks so nice on my 46" 1080P Sharp :)
     
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    Instead of these "top" lists, I'd be interested to see some complete lists
     
  20. RC Cola

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    OK. Just send me $12K and I'll see what I can do. Or was it more than $12k for software...I forget. Send me $24K just to be on the safe side.

    I remember the good old days when we did get complete lists ("illegally" of course). Seeing what FF7 sold in March 2004 was pretty cool.
     

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