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Now Trade Battier For Rudy Fernandez

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ghettocheeze, Jul 3, 2009.

  1. Egghead

    Egghead Member

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    I guess but I still think the Portland deal is not that great.. Fernandez might be like those international players that decide to go back home just because they wanna play at home not in the NBA
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    This is still a better idea, IMO

    Battier to DC for Nick Young and Brendan Haywood

    Haywood is expiring at 5.5 MIL...Haywood is a 7 footer... he can be the starting center this year...

    Nick Young is a great prospect at the 2 guard he is 6-6

    Wiz probably do this deal cause they want to contend next year... They got McGee and Blatche, who can play Center for them...

    they got Randy Foye, Mike Miller and DeShaun Stevenson so Nick Young can be moved...

    thoughts?
     
  2. v3.0

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    :rolleyes:
     
  3. rterry

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    This one works. Solves our problem for a serviceable center and starting SG and lets us keep flexibility for 2010 with Przybilla's expiring contract. Lose 2 valuable cogs, but Battier and Ariza are both small forwards and we are in dire straights.


    Portland Trade Breakdown
    Change in Team Outlook: +0.6 ppg, -1.6 rpg, and +0.6 apg.
    Incoming Players
    Carl Landry
    6-8 PF from Purdue
    9.2 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 0.6 apg in 21.3 minutes
    Shane Battier
    6-8 SF from Duke
    7.3 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 2.3 apg in 33.9 minutes
    Outgoing Players
    Joel Przybilla
    7-1 C from Minnesota
    5.5 ppg, 8.7 rpg, 0.3 apg in 23.8 minutes
    Rudolfo Fernandez
    6-6 SG from Spain (Foreign)
    10.4 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 2.0 apg in 25.6 minutes
    Houston Trade Breakdown
    Change in Team Outlook: -0.6 ppg, +1.6 rpg, and -0.6 apg.
    Incoming Players
    Joel Przybilla
    7-1 C from Minnesota
    5.5 ppg, 8.7 rpg, 0.3 apg in 23.8 minutes
    Rudolfo Fernandez
    6-6 SG from Spain (Foreign)
    10.4 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 2.0 apg in 25.6 minutes
    Outgoing Players
    Carl Landry
    6-8 PF from Purdue
    9.2 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 0.6 apg in 21.3 minutes
    Shane Battier
    6-8 SF from Duke
    7.3 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 2.3 apg in 33.9 minutes
     
  4. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    Now thats the trade!
    Portland gets Battier and moves unhappy Fernandez to Sacramento (along with Cook & White from HOU) who is looking to save while we get Martin!
     
  5. conquistador#11

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    I would love to see rudy here. But I'm not sure I would give portland shane. There are some players you just want to see retire with the team,Battier is one of those players. Yeah, I know it's a business. =(

    quick someone cheer me up and post the rudy fernandez shakira parody.
    :p
     
  6. Egghead

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    why not just trade battier to wiz for Brendan Haywood (expiring) and Nick Young?
     
  7. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Battier is only leaving if we get a big man in return. Thats the only way.
     
  8. Egghead

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    Battier to wiz for Brendan Haywood (expiring) and Nick Young
     
  9. rterry

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    I'd love it but Washington thinks they can get back to the playoffs with foye, arenas, jamison, haywood, etc. I don't think they would make the trade.
     
  10. Egghead

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    ya but Washington has McGee and Blatche, I think McGee is way better than Haywood..
     
  11. JayGoogle

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    I think about Brooks,Rudy,Ariza,Scola, Landry...

    I mean think about that lineup if we can't get a Center they may just run the other team off the court. Hey if it got the Warriors and Suns in the playoffs, we may have some luck with it until Yao comes back.
     
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  13. kegray34

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    Your points are all true and valid, but they are after Hedo to play where Battier would and they have an athletic, young Outlaw so where do Shane's minutes come?
    Brooks is rising but do you realize how easy it is to get a PG via FA or even trade as opposed to a center.
    Look at Gortat, everyone is wanting him like he is the next Olajuwon.
    Battier is a leader and a role player, Portland doesn't need that near as much as they need a star.

    I ask you why rumors are Rockets are willing to do a deal for Amare(who has injuries as well and makes a ton of cash) for Brooks/Landry, but they would not talk to Portland for Oden with Brooks involved.

    Fact is Brooks/Battier for Oden may be an equal trade,but no GM is giving up there 2nd year #1 draft pick Center who put up 14.8 points and 11.6 rebounds per 36 minutes when the only other center on the team is crappy and foul prone Joel P.
    I am not talking talent for talent unfair here. Just looking at where it leaves Portland at Center which is hardest place to fill. You can get lucky with PG's(hell see where we got Brooks in draft).
    Name me a center in the NBA of quality that went where Brooks was taken or later? He doesn't exist.

    No caps. :)
    Good friendly conversation and each persons opinion,but just don't think Blazers are moving Oden based on other bigmen available and on team.
     
  14. kegray34

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    For what.
    What can you give them that they would want because now that they have Hedo,then Battier is not an option.
    They got Hedo and Outlaw at the SF spot.

    Would have to be Brooks and that is not worth it.
     
  15. JayGoogle

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    The only way I'd trade Brooks to that team is if we're getting Oden back and Oden has had numerous injuries already...

    But Battier brings more than Outlaw does to that team. He brings defense and intangibles and a lot of Portland fans consider Outlaw as a knuckle head. Turkoglu is going to do what Outlaw does but only 20x better, but Hedo is still not going to make Kobe work for his shots (see finals) like Battier is going to. That's who Portland and any team in the West has to work towards. They have to look at their roster and say "Can we beat LA?"

    Not with their current Roster.
     
  16. motionsiknes

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    I dont care what happens with the Rox thsi year. All I want is Morey to ditch the Yao foundation and start going young and athletic and hope for the 2010 sweepstakes. If Yao can still play, then good for us. If not, then Morey must start moving fast.

    A young uptempo, athletic team with Adelman at the helm is going to be a fun brand new basketball for Houston. Im hoping this is what this year turns out. Enought Half-court ball already LOL
     
  17. baller4life315

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    No worries but your argument is laced with holes. For starters, the irony in all this is you're trying to act like quality big men are never found later in the draft yet you're using Marcin Gortat as an example. Any quesses as to where he was drafted? 57th overall in the 2005 Draft.

    Off the top of my head: Boozer, Scola, Dalembert, Gortat, David Lee, Varejao, Perkins, Zaza, Okur....just some names off the top of my head that were late first round picks or second rounders

    Hell, take a look at our current rotation outside of Yao/T-Mac: Scola, Ariza, Landry, Brooks, Wafer, Lowry. The majority of our entire rotation was taken late in the first round or in the second round. Talent can be found there, make no mistake.

    This is the only part of your argument that I don't understand. I mean, I think it's pretty obvious that Amare is both a better player thereby having a higher trade value. If true on the rumors, I definitely side with Morey in concluding Brooks and Landry is too much for Oden.
     
  18. chievous minniefield

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    Rockets named Rudy for the motherhearting win.

    I hate that Battier is now our most marketable piece. I would've loved to have won a title with him. As things presently stand, I don't see that happening.

    Let the RudyF era begin!
     
  19. Egghead

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    If we get Rudy we better get Bayless too
     
  20. FishBulb913

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    McGee is potentially better, but not right now when hoping to make a playoff run.
     

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