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Now they tell us: Pell Grant cuts

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Nov 30, 2012.

  1. basso

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    Sorry, college students. President Obama has cut your access to Pell Grants by 33%; he just forgot to mention it before Election Day.

    During the recent campaign, President Obama claimed credit for increasing funding to the Pell Grant program, which provides college funds, free from repayment, to millions of students. However, an email sent out Tuesday to some Dallas college students is revealing a detail the President forgot to mention: the time a student can receive a Pell Grant has been cut, by as much as three years. With Pell Grants for the fall semester now dispersed, colleges are informing students of their options, bringing the cuts to light.

    The email, sent out by the Dallas County Community College District, informed students of the changes to the Pell Grant program. It revealed that the number of semesters a student could receive a Pell Grant had been cut from 18 semesters down to 12. It is a detail likely unknown to most students; in fact, the cut in grants has gone largely unreported by the media.

    The email states that the cut in eligibility was part of an education bill President Obama signed into law in 2011. "On December 23, 2011, President Obama signed into law the Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2012 (Public Law 112-74). This new federal law states that the amount of Federal Pell Grant funds a student may receive over his or her LIFETIME will be reduced to the duration of a student's eligibility from 18 semesters (or its equivalent) to 12 semesters (or its equivalent). This new law applies to ALL Federal Pell Grant eligible students effective with the 2012-2013 award year beginning July 1, 2012. (DCL-GEN-12-01)"

    The cut in grant eligibility has serious ramifications for non-traditional students. Part-time students who do not receive a full semester grant may lose out on funds if they do not earn an undergraduate degree within 12 semesters. Adults who go back to school, including retraining for a new career, will also have limited access to grants.

    The amount of the grant varies based on family income (with a current yearly maximum grant of $5,550). If a student gets a grant less than a maximum, and a year later finds their income level has been reduced, they will not be able to recoup the difference in the lower amounts earned in a previous year. The cut in eligible semesters makes it difficult for students to make up that gap in later years.

    This cut in eligibility was never mentioned by President Obama during the campaign, and when he boasted about increasing funding to the Pell Grant program, CNN fact-checked his claim as true. While the amount of government funding to the program is going up in future years, CNN failed miserably by not pointing out the cuts in eligibility to students. The cuts could be a rude awakening to students who thought President Obama was expanding their educational opportunities.

    http://www.examiner.com/article/college-students-learn-of-obama-s-secret-pell-grant-cuts
     
  2. glynch

    glynch Contributing Member

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    You lost the election. Get over it. No wmd's. We lost the Iraq War.

    Demographics are working against guys like you and Sean Hannity said the old white establishment is finished. The Confederates lost the civil war, too.

    I can almost feel sorry for you.
     
  3. Orange

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    Do you think we give a f***???? Whats the point of your threads.
     
  4. Rocket River

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    I am not BASSO fan
    but . . . .at the end of the day . .. IS THIS TRUE?
    If it is .. . this is .. . . not good.

    Rocket River
     
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  5. London'sBurning

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    Sucks for me as a student. Oh well.
     
  6. AMS

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    Isn't 18 semesters = 9 years????????? Do people really take that long to finish community college?
     
  7. Joshfast

    Joshfast "We're all gonna die" - Billy Sole
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    December 23, 2011 he signed it. Why didn't the republicans use this in the election? Was it sealed till after the election?? (lol)

    The Tea Party hates money for education. The Pell Grant is an entitlement grant tiered to give more money to lower income, predominately minority families (the ones getting those damn gifts that lost the election)

    Shouldn't you have voted for Obama?
     
  8. Rocket River

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    Actually 6 if you include the summers.
    Some degrees do take longer than others
    Add in that some people have to come in and take remedial course
    because their high school sucked

    Rocket River
     
  9. juicystream

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    Could affect my wife. She received it for 2 semesters, before dropping out. She went back starting last year, and I want to say she was at one school for 2 semesters getting core classes, and bringing her GPA back up, and then transferred to her current school, where she has been for 3 semesters before she got in the Associate Nursing program, which lasts 5 semesters.

    So that is 10 semesters to get an associates degree. There are another 60 hours to complete after that to get her BSN.

    12 semesters says screw non-traditional students, and says screw ASN students.

    This should be based on semester hours (150 is a good number).

    Edit: I also believe there should be more than income tied to it. It should be a loan that is forgiven if you are meeting your degree requirements.
     
  10. BetterThanEver

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    Isn't that 9?

    2 semesters, drop out
    2 semesters, last year
    5 semesters, current school.
     
  11. juicystream

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    No, it was actually:

    3 semesters, drop out
    2 semesters GPC
    3 semesters MSC
    4 semesters ASN

    So that would put her at 12, with 60 hours remaining for a BSN.
     
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  12. Codman

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    It's interesting that Basso would bring up a topic related to education when it's obvious that his highest level of education is a GED.


    Also, Romney was defeated, so you really don't have a good reason to continue posting all of your Obama-hate.

    I guess it was fair game up until the election, but you should give it a rest after the beating your lia---I mean candidate took.

    Get some sun. There's a whole world out there if you step away from Fox News.
     
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  13. Space Ghost

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    I completely agree with this statement. I've seen the abuse and waste with people who didn't take school serious but continued to receive grant money.
     
  14. thadeus

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    From the Pell Grant website:

    Grades also play a role in federal Pell Grant requirements. You cannot be an “F” student, but you don’t have to be a Valedictorian either. Although you don’t need a high grade point average, satisfactory academic work is required for Pell Grants. Poor grades will cause you to lose it. To maintain your Pell grant eligibility, you should work hard at achieving good grades. Besides, good grades are important to learning the skill you’ll someday use to earn a living with. Nevertheless, you must keep at least a “C” grade point in order to be in good academic standing with the school and Pell grant requirements.
     
  15. Dairy Ashford

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    Yeah, I remember you using that phrase "underwater basket weaving" in an adult discussion about college once, so it's not surprising you don't understand this is more than enough time for a full-time student to get a degree: or that Pell Grants represent probably less than a fifth of available student aid.
     
  16. DimeDropper

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    to give you an idea how pathetic Basso is, he's actually advocating for slackers to stay in college on public assistance for up to 9 years. sounds very republican, right? well, it certainly sounds full of ****, which is all Basso is.
     
  17. Colt45

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    Exactly. Upon reading boobmilk basso's tired thread title yet again, I was sure it would be about how his messiah, Rmoney, had told lie after lie after lie about how The Once Again was just gonna hand out "gifts" to "takers" but, in reality, he was taking steps to cut spending while still helping those in need.

    Of course, as with every post with a thread title that starts with "Now they tell us", they DID tell us...and LONG before now. Some of folks were just too busy trying to force others to pay for their special needs child's education to listen.
     
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  19. bobrek

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    Pell grants are grants and not loans. They don't have to be repaid.
     
  20. CometsWin

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    December 2011 qualifies as now they tell us? Pell Grants haven't been cut, only the window for which they're available. You are such a crap poster.
     

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