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Now how do you feel? [T-Mac INJURY]

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by IROC it, Apr 29, 2008.

  1. TmacsRockets

    TmacsRockets Rookie

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    He needs to work out more often that will limit the amount of injuries he has. How often does he lift weights and stretch?
     
  2. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    It sure seems like a lot of this is due to conditioning issues....and the OP said he needs surgery....and I can't find one part of anything where Tmac says he needs surgery.....

    Talk about a massive leap of faith.

    DD
     
  3. abc2007

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    Rockets fans are in panic mode...

    From Pryuen's pictures, it seems the rockets' players are fine! That's the most important!
     
  4. ibm

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    i think the rule of thumb is that if you're hurt and by playing it will hurt further and risk permanent damage, then they keep you off the game; otherwise you play through it.

    they pulled rafer out. i'd think if it is serious enough they'd have pulled mcgrady as well. but they haven't. same goes to battier and hayes.

    so what's the big deal?

    i don't really care how mcgrady puts his injuries when asked about. no big deal for me. he is who he is. all i care about is we need him to play big tonight to extend this series and our season.
     
  5. emjohn

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    Sure thing:
    Kobe
    LeBron
    Parker, Duncan, or Ginobili
    Dirk
    Amare
    Paul
    Bosh
    Howard

    It goes beyond the numbers, even though most of these guys are scoring more at a higher percentage. All of these guys have played with a determination and aggressiveness that is completely lacking on our side.

    I'm sure some will argue that McGrady's assist numbers exempt him from a scoring burden. I would argue that half of assists are coming from situations were he is openly trying to get the ball out of his hands rather than challenging the defense.

    Again with the injuries - there is very little to suggest that McGrady will suddenly be fine next year. His back issues are chronic and will likely only worsen over time.

    Evan
     
  6. t_mac1

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    we have some depth at PG. you pull tmac and battier out, who are u gonna play? novak and head?

    u want a 100 pt blowout or what?
     
  7. Dave_78

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    He's playing hurt not injured. He isn't injured until I hear that surgery is necessary.

    I don't think lifting weights is the way to go for him. I actually believe that is how he aggravated his back and missed so much time two seasons ago. I don't trust the training and medical staff enough to put him on a true strength gaining program that wouldn't wreck his back.
     
  8. ibm

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    so are you saying that we're risking further injury and possible permanent damage in playing #1?

    100pt blowout? you ability of exaggerating is as good.
     
  9. DaDakota

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    I don't think it is strength, but rather a lack of running.....didn't Phil Jackson say that Tmac skips running in practice?

    Heck, he skips it in games too.....

    TMac.....RUN....my man....get out and RUN !!!

    DD
     
  10. t_mac1

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    yea i'm trying to fit in with the crowd on this board :D

    i'm not saying we're risking further injury, i'm saying it's going to take him a LOOOOOOONG time to heal that knee this offseason and it will mess up his training pattern.

    but seriously, unless tmac/battier can't crawl to the arena, they have to play. we have jackson/brooks to back up rafer.

    we have head/novak to back up tmac/battier.

    what has head done? you want him to play 35-40 mins? u want novak to play 35-40 mins?

    100 pt blowout may be an exaggeration, but you know what i mean.
     
  11. PigMiller

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    Nash, Garnett, probably Deron Williams...
     
  12. badgerfan

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    I think the primary consideration is the player's health, not the margin of victory. I don't think any player would be allowed on the court if there was a risk of permanent damage from playing on an injury.
     
  13. t_mac1

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    nash: has he been a factor in any games?
    garnett: he's been outplayed by a joshn smith man up
    deron: he can go 2-6 for 8 pts in 3 quarters, miss 2 fts and nobody cares, nuff said.

    outside of his shooting, tmac's all-around play has been great. but efficiently wise, you're right, 9-10 guys have been better OFFENSIVELY.
     
  14. Dave_78

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    Cue the Rocky/Forest Gump running video clips for Tmac!!
     
  15. tested911

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    My Opinion of him hasn't changed in the past 2 1/2 years.. TRADE HIM!!!
     
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    I think its a forgone conclusion this series is over... if Tmac needs surgery then no use risking further injury... if Tmac is still here next year we need him healthy... and if he isnt then we have needed him healthy for a trade
     
  17. t_mac1

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    in the media it's over b/c TNT asked magic how did the lakers match up with the jazz?

    but i dont' believe it. we have not played our best game yet (but it's hard for us to play our best game when a lot of our players are not healthy). but it's been close. we need to win game 5 and the pressure is on them.
     
  18. whag00

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    Now how do I feel?

    He can have surgery on his shoulder and knee this offseason...it just means he will need surgery on his ankle, wrist and heart next offseason.
     
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    If TMac is on the verge of a complete break down he should be shut down to avoid further damaging his knee; which in turn will not have him ready for next season. I am to the point of having TMac sit out the fourth quarters and going with Harris, Scola, Landry, Rafer, and Battier.
     
  20. pmac

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    I think those are the only 5 players playing at a higher level than Tmac right now. Someone else suggested KG (who is knotted 2-2 with the Hawks), Nash (who is getting killed by Parker at every possible moment) and Deron Williams (who has barely won close games with a much more talented team around him).

    You are right, it does go far beyond numbers. I don't think you could say with a straight face that you could replace tmac with anyone else (other than those 5) and be anymore successful against the Jazz. I'm not saying he is a better player but i feel it would be hard for Morey to replace what he gives the rockets in a trade.

    With the exception of Lebron no one is asked to score, create, and rebound more for their team than Tmac. It is true that many players are better at one or two of those things than he is but there is only one person who is better at them collectively. It has always been his MO he is a jack of all trades and a master at none. I just can't see how you could think that all these players in similar are worse playoff situations are giving their team more when they also have more talented teammates. :rolleyes:

    Even if that is the case is it something to whine about. I would say that if you have an injury prone player whose better than all but 9 other players in the league than you should be happy.
     

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