Now go and get Outlaw and LaFrentz and get rid of Cato!!!

nothing left then. wed then trade him to a different team. unless raef decides he will NEVER sign with us and he will ONLY wants to goto houston, then the only thing left is we left him walk and you sign him for the exception. thats it.

 

dude give me time. im only one man! im trying my best.

i have AOL IM and im online right now if anyone wants to chat about raef/nuggets/rockets/nba.

my sn is NugzFan (same as in here)

 

NugzFan and Det,

Chances are preety good now that the Nuggets will compete preety close to us for position, I mean we're not that much better than them, so I agree with Nugzfan on that. I mean McDyess is still more of a star than any of our guys as of now. That doesn't mean I don't believe in Steve or Cat but it's the plain truth.

and Det, as for your priorities of signing Chris Webber and/ or Hakeem, if possible then you can thank Hakeem for the Rockets not even attempting to sign Webber. Wasn't Hakeem the one back in mid June, right around Draft time, saying that Houston should keep the same old guys around from last year? Did that not directly contribute to RT and CD admitting they were out of the Webber sweepstakes. What a @#&*ing hypocrite!!!

Dream screwed us so bad on that, I don't care if anyone elsehas any rational/logical explanation for it. You're lying.

 

hysterical? saying no to SA/KT/cato/walt/bad picks for raef is being hysterical? i think thats being VERY VERY realistic. and obviously not overvaluing him at all. i am 100% fair on these.

we wont get an all star but if we get say, a jalani mccoy and a lotto protected (for a year or two) pick from the wiz...id take that 10000 times out of 10000 over any deal ive seen on this board. thats just ONE team and ONE offer. im sure i could think of 100 more easily.

 

Jelani McCoy?

You know, I think most GM's would greatly prefer Shandon Andreson and Kenny Thomas.

McCoy... sucks.

 

even if he sucks, as long as his contract is reasonable id take him over SA/KT. because of team needs. SA has no use on our team. KT has a little.

you want to give away every player that you guys dont want or need and get raef in return. tsk tsk.

what would you think if we offered cheaney, pack (s&t), mccloud and willis for griffin?

 

McCoy does suck. And a lotto protected Washington pick isn't that much more valuable than the sonics pick, esp if Michael comes back.

Why not take on Collier with KT + SA + pick?

Collier is about equal to McCoy anyway.

 

Nugzfan:

Come on.

I don't want to lose Thomas or Anderson. If you actually pay attention to the board, you'd note that I'm one of the staunchest defenders of both of these guys.

And a hypothetical trade like that for Griffin just isn't similar; you can't compare two completely dissimilar situations: horrible logic.

LaFrentz: Wants to be elsewhere
Griffin: As far as we know, does not want to be elsewhere

Lafrentz: talented but not a star
Griffin: Unknown, but could be a superstar

Lafrentz: will have a contract year in 2002
Griffin: will not

Rockets: talented team looking for the final pieces
Nuggets: Crappy team with a crazy GM who signs too many backcourt players to outrageous contracts

See?

 

jahidi white is better than collier. that deal is defintely better. and id take mccoy over collier or cato as well.

we dont want or need SA!!!!!

 

you think what you want so it gives you hope that you can still get raef. sorry but no. i cant believe you had the nerve to call me a homer.

raef wants to be elsewhere? griffin could be a superstar but raef cant even be a star? rocekts talented team looking for final piece while we suck? my god i have no repsect for you left.

 

Gee... great.

Would you like to point out where I was mistaken in my appraisal?

The Nuggets were 40-42 last year. They didn't make any deals. None of their players are "improving" substantially. Van Exel has begun his decline.

The Rockets were 45-37 with a young team that added Griffin, a valuable piece.

Lafrentz averages 13 and 8. Those aren't the #'s of a star.

Griffin was considered to have one of the best freshman years in college EVER. If he can get past his attitude... yeah, he might be a superstar.

You've started using pejoratives, but you're not using logic.

The idea that McCoy is more valuable than KT, Collier, and SA is quite frankly, absurd.

 

okay, where did jahadi come into the conversation? You'd take mccoy over those two, huh? Big deal, it's a wash.

Collie + KT + SHandy + SOnics pick is a hell of a lot better than

McCoy + wiz pick.

and if you cant see that then you are WAY undervaluing those aforementioned rocket players, as usual.

 

we won 5 games less. how come all your young players can get better while ours cant? wahad, cook, raef, posey, dice, etc... (van exel decline? must be starting RIGHT NOW cuz last year he got better)

raef got 13 and 8. i didnt say hes a star now like you said griffin isnt a superstar now. raef can get better. id bet griffin doesnt even get 13/8 next year.

your a homer whos upset cuz what i say goes against your dreams. you then reply back in the form of putting down my team as sort of revenge and misplaced dissappointment.

and yes mccoy alone is better than those 3. why? because we save lots of money, two roster spots and dont have to waste anything with collier and SA. KT has little value to help that deal. why dont you understand this.

 

how did the sonics get the wiz pick?

and again (ive said this like 3 times in this thread alone but you all ignore it). SA is of no use to us. wasted roster space and wasted cap space. same for collier. comeon! dont want! dont need!! no thanks!!!

SA as a player is better than mccoy or whoever, but there are other factors.

 

you are the one who came up with this deal not me.

you said McCoy + wiz first rounder.

That's a joke.

If you meant Jahadi + wiz first rounder thats not bad at all.

But McCoy is a joke. He is no better than Collier.

 

doh! jalani - jahadi...too confusing! meant to say jahadi white plus their pick.

 

but id still take mccoy alone over KT/SA/Collier. the salary saved alone makes the mccoy side more valuble. could save us posey down the line for example.

 

Collier and KT don't make much money though. Take out Shandy and KT and Collier + sonics pick is still waaay better than McCoy.

btw, it's funny you listed Wahad as one of your promising young players. I thought he was the "Cato" of your team. I've seen his contract numbers before, and geez.

 

wahad isnt promising, but hes young and can certainly do way better than last year (especially with kiki on board). no matter he will make alot though.

will you please understand SA on our team is nothing cept a waste. you might not even keep so youd like to get something instead. what are we gonna do with him? ugh.

 

We had bo outlaw in a summer camp once. He is a product of U of H. If you guys want Jelani McCoy, we may as well have drafted Alton Ford from U of H. Hey we can still probably get him from Phoenix.