Palin for president, right? Sad that people support her. We'll just have to agree to disagree on whether she is a complete idiot or not. Yeah, she has influence, and that's sad to me. People make me sad.
You are absolutely right. Palin did have a heavy influence on NY-23. She influenced DeDe to endorse a Dem, and caused thousands of lifelong Republicans to switch their vote. She flexed her muscle and made a district that hasn't voted for a Democrat since before the GOP existed go blue.
It's kind of an either/or thing basso. You either take the majority and tolerate Blue Dogs and liberal Dems, or you purify and merrily toil away in the minority. If the Dems expect to win in conservative leaning districts the Representatives will obviously have more conservative platforms. Just like if Republicans want to win in California or New York they need to find candidates with relatively moderate platforms.
She has not demonstrated she is ready to be President. She will have to amaze a lot of Republicans to a degree that is well beyond what most Republicans are expecting to win the Republican nomination. I believe she will impress people over the next few years more than they are expecting. But not enough more to earn the Republican nomination for President in 2012. Sarah Palin is still very young. She is 45 years old. She does not have to run this time, and I do not believe that it is likely that she will. But in say 11 years, she will be 56. That is a better age to be President than 45 in my view. She needs to accept a cabinet spot under a Republican president, perhaps in 2012, and then go take it from there. She could be a force to be reckoned with in the years to come, but she is still too new on the political scene. Besides, we have just tried an experiment with a green young president, and it is not working out so well. I doubt that the American people are going to want to go down this same road again for a long time.
No matter how bad you get shamed, there's always a new meme waiting in the wings. Yesterday you promised Hoffman would win. You were wrong again. As usual. Why not admit it, just once?
So, Sarah Palin caused a district that has been in Republican hands since the Civil War to elect a Democrat? Am I getting that right? Thanks for that, Sarah.
Owens was beating Scozzafava prior to Palin's endorsement of Hoffman. So, no, you are not getting it right. And no one who is actually involved in politics and is well informed about what happened in this race will share your perspective on this.
MoJo's partly right on this. Ultimately Hoffman caused the district to flip by splitting the vote. Palin just went rogue and endorsed him. I think her effect may have tipped the scales, as that was probably what pushed DeDe into endorsing Owens.
By spin, do you mean the most scientifically accurate way we have of measuring whether or not it was a referendum of Obama? You are just making up that it was about Obama, because that's the fantasy you wish was reality. For the rest of us who would like to look at actual information and data we see that you are dead wrong.
How can you guys tell this. Seems like they redistrict it every 5 years. Just curious what this is based on, counties?
Just getting in on the spin game to see what it must be like from the other side. It's actually kind of fun.
Bill Owens speaking on the House HCR Bill during an October 29 debate... “I think moving towards this legislation is very appropriate. I think the type or the form of the public option included in this bill is reasonable. It is not one that allows people to move to the government option if they already have health insurance overage. So it’s not going to control a significant segment of the population.” http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/10/29/ny-23-owens-endorses-public-option-in-only-televised-debate/
