Never say never. Who wants to live in Norman, Oklahoma? They sucked donkey balls for a stretch before Stoops arrived. You could say the same thing about Alabama, Ohio State, or lot of schools. If Oregon can be a top tier program, so can Notre Dame.
No one in particular. I love college football and will watch any team play any team at any given time. I have no problem with teams like TCU, Houston, Boise State playing for national titles. I also have no problem acknowledging teams like TCU and Boise State as big boys in college football. Unfortunately, many of their own fans don't seem to share that same opinion. To my original point though, I said *IN GENERAL*, the average fan does not want to see these types of teams play. As usual, I will provide facts to back up my statements. Here are the television ratings for the previous BCS games: http://www.bcsfootball.org/bcsfb/tvratings Notice a general trend? In 2007, Boise State vs. Oklahoma, one of the all time great games, was viewed by less people than LSU's blowout victory over Notre Dame. Notice something else? Cincinnati's bowl game is the worst rated BCS game of all time. Probably has a lot do with the fact that Cinci has less tradition and national recognition than Boise State. Maybe the Fiesta bowl knew what they were doing when they passed them up in favor of TCU and Boise State.
Had that happened, TCU actually would likely have gone to the national title game. Cinci was already ahead of Texas in the computers, but TCU was behind, so TCU would have gained a bunch of extra ground putting them in the title game. That said, if Cinci was in the national title game, I don't think there's any way he could leave. A national title is the ultimate goal - if you're willing to quit on your team before that, that says something about a person as a coach.
What did he expect Kelly to say? The players asked him before the biggest game of their season, are you leaving? He can't be honest with them and say yes; then they'll come out flat in their biggest game of the season, potentially losing any shot they had at a national championship. Not answering their question would just be another form of admission. Of course he had to lie to them. I understand the player feeling betrayed by a coach saying one thing and doing another, but when you back him into a corner like that, I don't really know what you expect him to say.
My point exactly. He couldve stayed at cincy and be like mike leach at tech. Just pick up the scraps and every 3rd yr or soe when your talent matures, put yourself in position for a big bowl game. No pressure when you have a down year or go 8-3. Go ask gillepsie what its like to coach at a school with unrealistic expectations. ND live in the "was" not the "is".
For coaches to get to this level in their profession, they probably want and like to be challenged. Yeah, he could have an easy life. But those types of people probably don't make very good coaches. There's nothing bad about wanting to push yourself into new challenges.
My opinion of the program is that "academics" is just an excuse trotted out to rationalize the fact that fewer and fewer people buy into their mythos over time. They, like all other schools, are more than willing to sacrifice academics for athletics - their standards are no higher than that of other top programs, which is why they recruit the same players.
Kids not only make choices based on how many times the team is on tv, but they make lifestyle choices. Kids want to know how is your campus,what is it to do,can you get me in the nfl? ND facilites aren't anywhere close to the big time programs. They don't have recent lineage of producing pro players. South Bend vs Austin,Gainsville,Baton Rouge is a no win situation. I think they wouldve been better getting a high energy guy like Herman Edwards that can go into a kids living room with his parents and sell i have pro connections and i will make you son a better man. At least that way, they could get some of the boderline guys that might want to come.
From what I've heard football players have it pretty easy here. Students get excited about being in football player classes because they will get good grades.
It's nothing personal. But a 5 minute YouTube video is not going to make me care about a 6-6 team that struggles against anyone decent. Those are a dime a dozen.
Mike Leach and tech has a better chance at competing for a title than nd. He may not get all the big name guys, but texas has so many d-1 players that he has jumped tamu in getting talent, kids love his wie open style, and they play in a great conference. I'm not saying mike leach will never leave, but leach has a pass to stay probably as long as he wants with the success they've had. I don't knock a coach for going balls to the wall in self challenge because the money is going to be great, but at the same time 18 yr old kids don't give a rats ass about the 4 horsemen. Hell, half of them probably don't even know who the rocket is.
And yet, lots of top players still go to Norman, Columbus, Happy Valley, Blacksburg, and all sorts of other unattractive places. Austin, Gainesville, Baton Rouge, and LA are the exception and fairly unique in the grand scheme of college football.
What does that have to do with his interest in the UW job? Also, if you can't distinguish between a guy coaching at Florida and a guy coaching at Texas Tech...
For the most part the sooners have ok city and the corridor into texas. Columbus have cleveland,ohio,cincy and part of michigan and pitts. Now penn st works penn,and virginia and blacksburg work that chesopeake vally, virginia and those area. What i'm saying is those program have a recent history of recruiting in specific areas and producing pro players. Go and look at the old lou holtz nd squads and you will see guys from texas because texas was down a little, florida, and places like that. When purdue during the tiller hey dey was beating the brakes off nd it was because they were getting some fringe players like brees and so forth and those guys were developed. not only that, they were cool with 8-3 until one of those squad matured, but nd, because of the letters think they can lure the high end southern kids and the ghetto gary indiana kids and its not happening.
