aww hell.. someone lock my other thread. This just makes me sad. He could have accomplished all his goals at UC... shoot he nearly made the Championship game this year... and probably should have!
kelly has complained since the day he got to UC he wants better facilities. ND has a brand new one, best in the country apparently. not shocked hes leaving, i cant wait to see him crash and burn at ND
Is there a more overrated sports program/team than Notre Dame football?? Too bad the media won't ever quit sucking on their nuts because if they did, then nobody would even hear anything about them other than how much they suck.
False. Have you even looked at the recruiting classes they've gotten under Weis? I didn't think so. As is Ohio State, Michigan, etc. You obviously didn't really do any homework prior to this, just spouted off cold weather cliches. I'd also be willing to bet you've never been to the campus, just assume that a cold winter would not make anyone want to be there. As some have pointed out, the real problem with ND is they care more about the student athlete than most schools. For those of us who care only about championships (I am one of those), nothing else really matters. Especially nothing like graduation rates: http://www.fanblogs.com/texas/006616.php From 2006, found it quickly on google, but essentially: ND - graduates 95% of their football team. UT - graduates 40% of their football team. Notre Dame has strict academic requirements and really pushes to be among the leaders in graduation rates. This hurts their recruiting, obviously, but Weis was still able to land top 10 classes pretty consistently. Like I said, I think because of the academic requirements, ND is the toughest job in college. However, the fact is they don't have that hard of a schedule, and they should regularly be making appearances in BCS bowls. I don't get people that truly think ND is now irrelevant - Notre Dame was the leading story on ESPN for going 6-6. OU and Bob Stoops had their worse record since Stoops started in Oklahoma, but nobody really talked about it like they did ND. ESPN had a live reporter on campus for two days in anticipation of the Weis firing. Notre Dame being on top again is good for college football, and there still is a mass fan base for the school. I would hate to be a fan that ever accepts mediocrity, as some of you suggest ND fans should.
Well put, but lets face it ND is the Lakers of NCAA Football. If they're up or down, they're still news. They need to get Holtz big time homer self back, he seems to be the only guy that can win in South Bend.
Which they agreed to build him and have already started on... so that point is moot. I am not a football fan, in the least, but he has an entire city of football fans eating out of the palm of his hand... basically agreeing with whatever decisions he makes and supporting the team in full. I don't know if you know it, but Ohio is almost as big a Football state as Texas (that was sarcasm just in case you couldn't tell... cause I figure everyone knows that) So going to Indiana and coaching at ND isn't the great thing everyone makes it out to be... and yes I know the ND history and stature, so maybe it's the challenge that attracted him. My bet is it's the money though. He figures he can build up any program and accomplish his goals. I am just saying he could have done it at UC faster by finishing out the last three years of his contract.
The big ten is a joke. http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/16343161/ They always lose their bowl games. Times are changing, warm weather schools are going to rule.
oh i know how big football is in ohio, especially southwest ohio since i live in SW ohio. i didnt realize those facilities were being built already...thought i heard him say earlier this year he still needed to sit down with the school to talk about building something. money is obviously a huge factor, no doubt
Question: If A Player wants to goto another school . . . .doesn't he have to sit out a year? How is it fair for this guy to walk away and coach the next year . . but not the players? Rocket River
its not, and there are people who have openly asked the rule be changed. its not a bad idea either, just allow players to by pass a year sitting out if their coach jumps ship.
Mike and Mike did a piece on ND a few days ago. With how the landscape of college football is now, ND doesn't have anything more to offer than other powerhouse programs. ND either needs to lower the recruiting requirements for its student athletes so they could be a perennial title contender like they've been in the past, or they need to lower the expectation and realize that they can't compete with the big boys while sustaining such a stringent academic requirements. No coach will be able to make ND what it used to be given the present conditions.
Telling a recruit you are from Notre Dame opens a lot more doors than telling them Cincinnati. ND recruits nationally, on a much larger scale than what Cincy does. Cincinnati to ND is definitely a step up and much more challenging - mostly because of the increased expectations and academic requirements. If Notre Dame played Cincinnati's schedule and went 12-0, they would probably take Texas' spot in the championship game*. The name alone just gives you that much more of an advantage and prestige. I have a hard time seeing people keeping an undefeated Notre Dame team out of the championship game. *"ND" would have beat WVU, Pitt, Oregon St.. all ranked higher than Texas' OK State and Nebraska
Can we name one single recent player that ND wanted, and who wanted ND, who ultimately they could not get due to their allegedly strict academic requirements? Terrelle Pryor, etc? I don't recall that during their last glory years, the Lou Holz era, them having a team of nuclear physicists or chemical engineers. In fact I remember the opposite.
No, I think the 4 losing seasons at Washington including 0-12 in 2008 killed Willingham's career. George O'Leary killed his career with Notre Dame.
Lance McAlister was talking about the facilities on the radio earlier this week and last week. They had been approved and funded apparently. You live near me??? Did I know this?
ND can make it "back." They just need to qualify for a BCS game (which is their biggest advantage - preferential treatment, as well keeping all bowl revenue to themselves). The Big Ten is definitely a joke of a conference; Notre Dame needs to get with this century and join the Big Ten; make it a real conference. Can't fault Kelly for leaving UC; their stadium had a record crowd this year -- just over 35,000. Cincinnati wasn't going to be a football powerhouse. It's the right move for Kelly, if he succeeds. Now I just hope Notre Dame continues to fail.
