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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rimrocker, Jan 15, 2009.

  1. rimrocker

    rimrocker Member

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    Ah, I slept like a baby last night knowing that when I woke up, we'd be closer to Tuesday.

    Odd that upon the departure of a two-term president... who just happens to be from a wealthy east coast family, the grandson of a senator, and the son of a president... that it falls to a black family from the south side of Chicago to restore honor and dignity (and pride) to the White House.
     
  2. juicystream

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    I won't talk about things like class size because I had small classes, had access to all the supplies I ever needed, and teachers that were among the brightest people I've ever known. You also don't need post graduate work to get a teaching degree. Go through an education program and earn a standard education degree and you are qualified to teach public school. I don't know where you get needing post graduate work to get a teaching degree.
     
  3. FranchiseBlade

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    Because I'm a teacher, and there were classes and student teaching required after having a bachelor's degree.
     
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    Education is a state matter. I live in GA. You do student teaching as part of your Bachelor's degree program and don't have classes beyond your bachelor degree unless you would like to teach gifted classes.
     
  5. FranchiseBlade

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    Yes, it is different in different states. In CA the student teaching is in addition to the 4 year degree, and there is always ongoing Professional development classes that are required as well.
     
  6. juicystream

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    I'll have to do CPE once I get my CPA license. I'm still working on my MBA though. You being a teacher makes a lot of sense though, particularly in California. All teachers hate their lack of supplies, particularly with constant budget cuts. I imagine your cuts are more severe considering the problems over there, not to mention your Governor is a Republican.

    Educators hated our last Democrat governor in GA:
    Barnes used a more centralized approach to education and eliminated tenure for newly hired teachers. He also pushed through a controversial initiative to end social promotion by requiring students to pass a test before advancing to the next grade. Many educators strongly disagreed with Barnes' criticisms of teaching methods and the education system as a whole.
     
  7. rimrocker

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    I agree with a lot of what the governor did judging from what you've posted. I don't like the idea of tenure for new teachers at all. Luckily in CA we don't have that. I also hate social promotion, because it does a great disservice.

    Testing can go either way. If there was an equitable way to test, I wouldn't mind it at all, but I have yet to see that. While test taking is an important skill, it shouldn't be the main skill taught. In CA the union actually pushed and received a set of teacher standards that teachers have to be held to. I like the idea of that. Most of the teachers I know are extremely dedicated and work hard for all the right reasons.

    In CA the budget cuts are horrible, we have the highest foreclosure rate in the nation, and since the budget was set based on predicted property taxes it's way short. The state can't agree to a budget, and are being sued by a couple of different groups. The schools and districts are being asked to cut, but there are two separate pools of money in school budgets, and the one that pays outside contractors, and supplies can't be touched. Basically the only one the state is allowing cuts to come from is the one that pays teachers' administrators' and staff salaries and benefits.

    Most teachers I know are willing to give up a week of pay in order to not have to lose teachers or have classrooms go up to 37:1 teacher student ratio.

    Nobody knows what's going to happen, and I certainly hope it's not a strike.
     
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    you seem to be on the very very fringe of the public perception of bush. most people liked him because of the things he said during his first campaign. he was relected mostly because of the disaster that was kerry. but most people have come around and realize the things this man has done. but people like you just dont seem to be able to see any wrong. i just dont get it.

    i like obama and i think its pretty probable that he does a better job then bush. but im sure in my self that im able to see through what he or someone else does to be able to tell when he screws up.

    do you think you have that capacity? or is everything bush does right, everything obama does wrong? i dont understand how people can function that way. :confused: :confused: :confused:
     
  10. pgabriel

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    keep it up dude, this election and the election of 06 proves that people are really digging the republic hateful rhetoric
     
  11. rimrocker

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    18.5 hours left.

    Can't wait to wake up tomorrow and watch Barack Obama take the oath.
     
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    lol yeah how's that democratic congress working out so far?
     
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    1/22/13 - The End of an Error.

    (President Obama, if you can prove me wrong, please do.)
     
  14. MadMax

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    I have a lunch bet with my brother on this.


    He says Obama is a one-term president.

    I say things will get better..or will at least appear to be getting better...by the time he's up for re-election...and that it will help him stay in office.
     
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    We reelected Clinton and Bush, so anything's possible.
     
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    doesn't matter, republicans have no solutions
     
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    You can post an Obama countdown, but he's president because he won it, not because of an unConstitutional Supreme Court decision.

    Tomorrow is the End of an Error.
     
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    Maybe he's betting on a MLK style assassination from a white supremecist.
     

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