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Not trading Gordon is one of our biggest failures this year

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by jayhow92, Mar 23, 2022.

  1. steddinotayto

    steddinotayto Contributing Member

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    I'm still trying to figure out why you insist that a draft pick can only be used to draft a player. Acquiring a 1st rounder gives you options outside of actually using it to select a player. Keeping Eric Gordon provides this team less options as time goes on, especially if we are to believe that he won't stay as healthy or play as well next year like how he did at the beginning of this season.

    And that's fine if you want to widen the salary range but the fact remains that a player like that--one that's worth trading most of our players and assets for, one that's relatively young enough to build around or get this team back into becoming a perennial playoff contender--is still not common to find on the trade market.


    I'm still at a lost how either one of the outcomes you presented:

    -Letting Gordon's contract expire, thereby netting absolutely nothing for him
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    -Getting a future 2nd round pick

    Is better than getting a late 1st round pick. Like in what way is any of those scenarios better than a late 1st rounder? If using the late 1st rounder on a player is a gamble (something I'll agree with you on)...what is an apt equivalent of getting that 2nd round pick and using it on a player? Betting your entire life savings that the NFT you bought on eBay would set you up for life?
     
  2. Believe It!

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    Most Def!
     
  3. theDude

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    I don’t remember if it was a direct quote from Stone or someone just reporting on the topic, but it was stated that the offers just didn’t meet the value that they placed on Gordon. We don’t know if that means the picks were too low or the teams were requesting we also take on salary.

    I don’t have a problem with trying to maximize value, as long as you don’t ultimately get stuck holding the bag. Stone might also have placed a higher value on Gordon than just a reflection of his on-court play, but also because of his ability to bundle with Wood or others in order to bring back an impact player. There’s still the off-season and through the trade deadline to make something happen, so I don’t really see it as a missed opportunity… yet.
     
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    I will concede it is possible that the pick can be traded. I still don't think it can be traded for something better than it is. On combining with actual assets, keeping Gordon's contract has a lot more options as good players typically make money and are on teams without cap space.

    On letting Gordon's contract expire or getting a future 2nd, that is the downside if the gamble fails which is the most likely outcome. The upside is needing Gordon's contract in a trade for a better value than a late 2022 FRP or the trade value of the pick. While the odds of completing the trade are low, I think the odds of completing a trade are better than Stone drafting a good player with a late 2022 FRP or trading the pick for something that becomes a good player.

    I find it odd that Stone wasn't able to complete a trade that you would like for a FRP, but you have faith in him making a future trade with a FRP without screwing up.
     
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  5. SamFisher

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    The "rebuilding team can't risk get stuck with an FRP because it might draft badly" logic is some amazing stuff here.

    Let's see if Philly is willing to take all the Harden trade picks back for Harden. Better a bird in hand!
     
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  6. mac_got_this

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    He wanted to stay.
     
  7. Bo6

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    it's not great no. but if hes dealt this summer for a first i'm okay with it.

    absolutely inexcusable if he's here for training camp.
     
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  8. fattz

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    He makes $19.5M. What we going to take back in cap to get the pick? Is it really worth it? Maybe waiting is the best answer. Next year is only partly guaranteed, too. A simple parting mid season and books are in a lot better shape long term; while Gordon goes after his ring by signing minimum deal, too. Holding on my not be popular but I thing now it’s the right move.
     
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  9. hajkov

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    SURE
    Afterall, when you are in you thirties, had a career full of injuries, has been a solid role player and sixth man all your life...

    All you want to do is stay in a rebuilding team until you retire.
     
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  10. YOLO

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    if anyone actually believes that bless you. folks are so gullible
     
  11. chenjy9

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    I bet some of you trashing on Stone for not trading Ego would have been the same ones upset with Morey not trading Simmons for Herro and looking to hold out for a player like Harden instead if y'all were Sixers fans. Let the pros do their job until they've actually proven they can't. At the very least, it's absolutely a certainty they can do their jobs better than any of the armchair GMs this board is littered with.
     
  12. YOLO

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    Morey trading for Herro was never in play. It has always been Harden as the target. folks were laughing at him for holding out. But look who got the last laugh and he ended up with him in the end. Now that's actually a real example of pro.

    Pros? The FO is made up with the likes of Patrick Fertitta. He's nowhere near some pro. He just has a silver spoon in his mouth. dude used to be relocated to his dad's casino duties before Tilman was owner. Now he's advising transaction decisions for a professional sports organization lol

    "The pros" gave Theiss of all people $40 mil and ended up getting rid of him less than a year later. "The pros" gave nwaba someone who should be getting vet min $10 mil.

    "The pros" in this FO are far from anyone who should be looked at as let them do their job. This organization has been trash for years for a reason. They're the worst team in the league yet again. Good job pros
     
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  13. steddinotayto

    steddinotayto Contributing Member

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    Yea so are some of you still holding out hope for a 1st rounder for Gordon this season? Lol
     
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    Maybe we can use Gordon as a sweetener to dump KPJ, Nix and Christopher

    Good gawd
     
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  15. SamFisher

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    Yeah but at least we didn't have to have 3 FRPs in 22 like Stonetitta feared.

    Could've been stuck with TyTy if we did!
     
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  16. steddinotayto

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    I wonder what value Stone has on Gordon right now.
     
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  17. larsv8

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    There is actually some logic in keeping Gordon till this offseason, depending on how stone intends to approach this summer.
     
  18. steddinotayto

    steddinotayto Contributing Member

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    I don’t think Houston has a choice in keeping him considering Gordon’s trade value is pretty low at this point.
     
  19. jerryclark

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    Dumbass stone is waiting for a team to offer 3 picks for gordon. The same dumbass who ended up trading wood for boban and tyty washington after sitting on his hands for 2 years

    Someone rescue gordon for real!
     
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  20. PeterKingX

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    Agree

    Playing Gordon is meaningless
     

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