and, we actually controlled time of possession with a 5 minute cushion for most of the game until that final Eagles possesion in the 4th quarter. Carr looked very good yesterday. B+ at worst. A couple bad throws, fell over his own two feet, but spread the ball well and made nice decisions. The crowd showed that they aren't going to hold back on him if he slips up. Evan
If anything, our d-line and o-line lost us this game. The D-line couldn't get any pressure. The O-line could protect Carr or create holes for our running backs. It all starts with the line and our lines played crappy yesterday.
honestly, this makes me lose respect for the QB rating system. i have no problem saying that Carr didn't lose us that game yesterday...but he wasn't fantastic, either. the idea that performance earned him a rating like that really demeans the rating system in my eyes.
How? He was calm and composed. Made the right passes and had a high completion percentage. Even had a couple of drops that should have improved the % more (thanks Putzier). Threw for a td and no int's. And had the whole offense have to go through him because of the lack of running game. Why should this deserve a bad rating or why should his good rating be negated because of the way he played?
The issue is. . this has been stated on his Behalf since he got here Rocket River He evidently has a PERMANENT pass
Where do you get that idea? A good, sizeable portion of the fanbase is ready to run him out of town. You yourself said people are going to hate him no matter what. How is that true but he also has a 'permanent' pass? Yesterday was hardly Carr's fault. He looked a lot better than he did in a while. But we were so inept all the way around it is hard to judge.
10 qbs posted ratings over 90 and there are still four more to play tonight. the highest rated passer over the week, charlie batch. it has been an insane week for qb play.
because it would appear he played a great game. i didn't see a great game out of david carr yesterday. you don't have to throw interceptions to make mistakes. not all mistakes show up in the formula.
Carr was not the reason we lost. The Oline was not good and the backs missed their blocks; these two things caused most of the sacks, maybe you can put one on David. That is acceptable. The defense as a whole was terrible. No pressure on McNabb, biting on playaction passes so bad that noone was within 20 yards of Stallworth on the one TD. The running game was pathetic when it mattered, hopefully Dayne can help there. Overall, i give the team a D+ and David's play along with the receivers was actually the only positive I can see from yesterday.
Why? Let's take a closer look at his stats via the WR stats: AJ 6 catches, 101 total yards, 16.8 average including a 44 yd reception. Moulds 6 catches, 68 total yards, 11.3 average including a 25 yd TD. Putzier 1 catch, 26 total yards, 26.0 average (obviously) Those are the receivers. I am encouraged that all 3 receivers had averages over 10 yards per catch. That means we're throwing the ball downfield more. He only threw 4 dumpoff passes (to the RB's) for the entire game. 4 passes to the RB's, 13 passes to the WR/TE's. That to me is at least encouraging considering how often we threw the dumpoff pass to DD last year instead of throwing it downfield. I'm not saying he should be player of the week or anything, but this loss was not his fault.
i never ever never said he was. in fact, i specifically said he was not. in the very post you just replied to.
why? because i wasn't impressed. i was encouraged he didn't suck like he did in the preseason. but when i see that 100 number for rating i think of it as more than what i saw from carr yesterday. i realize my take on this is subjective and that numbers are objective. but unfortunately the formula can't and does not take everything into account. and again....I'M NOT SAYING THE LOSS IS CARR'S FAULT!
He was definately Plummeresque, in that he didn't lose the game but really didn't do anything to win it either. Ladies and gentleman I give you David Carr's ceiling.
I don't understand, are you saying the loss is Carr's fault? In this offense, the run is used to set up the pass. Since our RB's averaged about .05 yards per carry thanks to our crappy blocking and the Eagles stout defense, it's safe to say that wasn't happening yesterday. If that was the case last year, his rating would have been about 20. Again, under the circumstances I think he played pretty well. Key phrase being "under the circumstances".
I agree that it doesn't warrant this rating, but Carr wasn't all bad or anywhere near mediocre yesterday. That being said, I still don't like the way he releases the ball. What the stats and numbers don't show, is how him lobbing the ball all the time is affecting the receivers and their yards after receptions. He doesn't throw them in stride of the receivers and his floating short passes is bound to get someone hurt at this rate. On the other hand, I don't really blame the secondary either. For the most part, I actually thought that they did a decent job, if the defensive line did something to pressure the QB. If the QB had all day to throw, which McNabb did, then there is no way receivers can't eventually get free. About Mario Williams.... He seemed very lost out there yesterday. I'm still going to defend the pick for the time being as I agree with the chance the Texans took. 3 tackles, however, is not that bad for a defensive lineman. Linebackers are the ones that gets most of the tackles. HOWEVER, no pressure on the QBs whatsoever! Mario was double teamed all day, but all that says is that either Mario wasn't as impressive or the other linesmen were horrible with single coverage at best.
carr played well, so this really isn't a criticism because he couldn't avoid most of those sacks. but if you watched the peyton/eli over hyped game, there was a point when lavar arrington came free off the edge to get to peyton and peyton got rid of the ball for a completion throwing to probably what was his check off route. that's what the next improvement carr has to make. until he makes that improvement he's going to get blitzed more than most qbs in the league. throwing down the field though was encouraging and that probably had become his biggest weakness.
I only saw portions of the game, but doesn't anybody believe that Carr has had enough money & resources committed to him at this point that it's not unrealistic to expect him to step up and win games rather than just not make any mistakes? Not every weekedn of course, but every once in a while at least ( I realize it is still early).
