yes, his evil plan to single handedly cripple the franchise worked!!!! MMWWAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHAHA give it a rest
wow, it's you again...ripping JVG for ridiculous things once again. what a shocker coming from the guy that said JVG ruined Yao Ming what part of we didn't play Yao or Tracy didn't you get?
Yea, but the draft is a crapshoot. You mention Akeem/Bowie, what about Bowie/Jordan. What if the Bulls had the second pick and chose Bowie instead of Jordan. Hell look at the Pistons, do you think it was good that year that they had the second pick. The would have been much better off picking fourth or fifth and hoped someone else picked Darko, leaving them stuck with Bosh or Wade. Of course having Roy would have been better then win 34 that year, but you cant play your games that way. If that was the case why didnt Les just forfeit the game and not have the team show up? Honestly, if the Rox are lucky this year they might get the 7 or 8 seed and a likely first round exit. Would that be better then having Michael Beasley on the team next year? How bout Adelman just tank the remainder of the season, and try to line up a high lottery pick?
This is the problem with the NBA and its draft. It punishes mediocrity. The Rockets right now are cursed to mediocrity. We always do just well enough to not get a top pick (Unless we get really lucky) but we don't do well enough to make serious playoff noise.
How exactly would you change this? I mean they have a lottery system in place, which is more than you can say about football. Plus, teams have proven time and time and time again you can draft all-star players outside of the lottery...even in the second round. The Rockets problems are organizational. For the better part of the last 10+ years they've had a mediocre GM...nice guy, CD, sure, but he gave away ridiculous contracts, made some high risk high reward trades (where the risk won out), and never had a clear picture in his mind who he wanted to coach the team, what style he wanted, etc. Similar things can be said about other crappy organizations...even once good ones. Like Chicago. A bunch of years with high draft picks, some decent ones like Kinrich, Gordon, Deng, some suprisingly good ones like Nocioni, but some horrible moves, too. Eddy Curry, trading Brand and taking Chandler. They drafted Marcus Fizer 4th overall, Jay Williams ended up being a bad pick. So they get over all those bad organizational moves by finally making some good picks and trades, only to move Chandler too soon and replace him with an aging, high contract, underperforming Ben Wallace. They trade Curry and get a great draft pick, but even though its early, Noah, Thomas, Thabo aren't really turning out that well yet and they're headed back to the cellar. I'm just saying, don't blame the system, blame the team. The Rockets have found some good late round picks, but no really good ones (ala Tony Parker, Gilbert Arenas, etc.). They've made some good trades (T-Mac), but some questionable ones (Battier). They've made some bad FA acquisitions (Stromile, Bonzi, Francis) and nobody really paid attention to what success would mean in light of the changing league rules until it was too late. As for this thread, I don't think the failure to acquire Kleiza could be considered an organizational failure!
No the problem is poor management plain and simple. A decade of terrible trades and draft picks is why we're not past the 1st round yet.
Expand the development leagues and add rounds to the draft. (I'd go to five.) Give teams exclusive control over players that they draft for several (at least three) years, like MLB does. A mediocre or even good team would have the opportunity to draft a player with a ton of potential who's not ready to step in and play, and bring them along slowly. They're not taking up a roster spot, so teams won't be under pressure to play them immediately. The player gets what amounts to a 3 year tryout for the NBA, or he can choose to go play in Europe. I think if you do this, the total level of play in the NBA will increase significantly in about 5 years, and fans will be much more interested in the draft and D-League.
What if . . . What if we drafted Roy, and he started riding a motorcycle in our horrible Houston traffic and got hit by someone changing lanes not looking out for him, and his career went the way of Jay Williams. Or what if he started drag racing David Wesley in Mario Williams' Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 down 59 south towards Sugarland, not knowing we have road construction every five miles. We can play this all day.
Thanks for the update! Just dropped James Jones and added Kleiza in Fantasy. Also, I suggest people who are defending Gundy take a look at Clutch's recap of that game. I don't know how to access it though - perhaps someone else does. Here's the summary - Rockets 86, Nuggets 83 April 17, 2006 at Pepsi Center Draft Pick Drops: Rockets blow draft pick by making huge run late, beating Nuggets 86-83
Such a BS win. We were getting blown out and came back against their scrubs. Carmelo wanted to go back in the game so bad but Karl wouldn't let him. I hate George Karl.
Five rounds? Most people dont know half the players drafted in the second round. I dont think adding 90 additional draft picks is going to drum up extra interest. Plus if you control these players for three years, you also have to pay them for those three years. And no team wants to pay three years of salary when most second round picks dont make the NBA much less a third through fifth round pick having a chance.
We all agree in the long run the win was pointless. But you can not hate a coach for expecting his players to try. The players won the game, not JVG. Denver was trying to lose, so if they let Alston score, they probably could have let JL3 score as well. Stop whining about a team trying to play hard and win, when right now I think thats what everyone wants the Rox to be doing.
I don't remember all the details but if Roy went 2 slots ahead of Gay, how would moving up one slot help us get Roy?
Not Brandon Roy, no. Instead, we got...wait for it...SHANE "The Politician" BATTIER! I don't see what there is to complain about. Roy has no intangibles to speak of; he's a tangible commodity.
Roy is ****ing amazing. To think we had a chance on this super stud... AHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! Well, i guess we are tanking this season to trade our lottery pick to Miami for Jason "Vet PG who will help us get over hump" WIlliams, since we are win now
I don't want a team intentionally trying to lose. However, if it's a meaningless game and the other team has their scrubs in and we are going lotto I don't see the point of keeping the starters in to try and get a win.
