Yeah now china is the root of all evil, lol how did they ruin hong kong??!!! i still live the exact same way as i did 10 years ago , hk taiwan is all part of china do u really give a fxxk how we live?! China is imperialistic!!?? sure! the chinese are trying to take over the world secretly u better ask ur president to invade beijing before the chinese get too strong!!!!
Then why have they remained SILENT on the North Korea issue? It's cause they approve of what North Korea is doing.
Then why have they remained SILENT on the North Korea issue? It's cause they approve of what North Korea is doing. Umm, they haven't remained silent on the North Korea issue. They have been in talks with North Korea over the dispute. They were absolutely vital in the 1994 agreement, and their involvement will be absolutely vital on any future agreement as North Korea's only friend. They don't want a nuclear-armed North Korea any more than anyone else in the world because that likely means a nuclear Japan and/or South Korea, which is the worst thing that could happen to China.
China is giving lip-service. They aren't serious about trying to help the North Korea situation. The 1994 agreement was lie anyways. North Korea continued the nuclear program despite the 1994 agreement. And China's reaction to North Korea's admission about disobeying the agreement? Absolutely nothing.
Personally, I would think that once you've decided to break treaty and start developing your nuclear arsenal in secret in violation of agreements to the contrary, you have to expect some reaction to that. You can't start the war machine rumbling and then blame the other side for reacting. I mean, you can, especially in an era when a lot of people are more than happy to blame the United States for any number of things. But you really shouldn't expect that. Had they not broken treaty in the first place, would we be considering massing troops over there? But hey, I don't have the answers.
Weren't all these troops that we are "massing" in South Korea already there? I thought they've been there for 50 years.
Personally, I would think that once you've decided to break treaty and start developing your nuclear arsenal in secret in violation of agreements to the contrary, you have to expect some reaction to that. You can't start the war machine rumbling and then blame the other side for reacting. Sure -- but that's not really relevent. We are at the point we are today - what caused it is not going to affect North Korea's defense policies. If we violated a nuclear treaty with China, they had called us an axis of evil, and had started massing troops and ships along our borders, do you think we should or would wait for them to invade? China is giving lip-service. They aren't serious about trying to help the North Korea situation. The 1994 agreement was lie anyways. North Korea continued the nuclear program despite the 1994 agreement. And China's reaction to North Korea's admission about disobeying the agreement? Absolutely nothing. Just because they aren't conducting media diplomacy like we are doesn't mean they aren't doing anything. They absolutely despise the idea of a nuclear North Korea, and it does them no good to publicly criticize NK. If they get anything accomplished, it will be because of their private friendship with NK, not because of public rebukes. Its not in anyone's interests for them to be publicly bashing North Korea in the media.
Not quite. The difference between Iraq and North Korea is that Saddam may talk a good game, but when the shiznit hits the fan, his "elite" republican guard gives up with a quickness. The entire country of North Korea has been brainwashed for decades in complete isolation to believe that the U.S. is their sworn enemy because they are holding their Korean Brothers and Sisters hostage in the South preventing the North from "rescuing" them. Given the right opportunity North Korea could VERY easily roll right over the DMZ and kill MILLIONS of Koreans in the name of liberating their brothers. They are also a major threat to Japan and other countries in the region due to their missle program that is already in place. Placating them is NOT the right thing to do, but in most these situations in the past, the saber rattling is done in an attempt to secure more aid for their starving people. Going to "war" with Iraq would be a JOKE compared to ANOTHER war in Korea.
NJRocket: We would win. It would be longer and messier than we're used to, but... We'd win. China will not come to NK's aid this time. Japan may come to ours (highly significant - regionally, they have arguably the finest military aside from ours). The SK military could probably actually win without us, but it would be an extremely bloody and likely protracted fight. Yes, they are outnumbered, but they have superior equipment, training, and leadership. Typically, all other things being equal, the attacker would want to have a 3:1 numerical advantage over the defender (it is much easier to defend than attack), but NK has only a 2:1 advantage, and they are relatively poorly equipped and trained. They would lose against the SK's alone. Throw us into the mix, and they have no chance. Even if they popped off a few nukes and threw VX everywhere. But it would be bloody. It is typically acknowledged that the indantry division we have there is just a speedbump that would likely be overwhelmed. They buy time for us to move more into the theatre. But my guess - we could lose 20-50,000 people in a war with NK, considering a simultaneous engagement with Iraq. Minus that two-front burden, maybe 10,000 people. No one wants to go to war with NK. On the other hand, no one wants them to become a significant nuclear power, because if any regime on the planet could be said to be truly insane, it is Kim's regime. Something will have to be done eventually, hopefully a diplomatic/political solution. A CIA-sponsored coup would be beautiful.
Satellite images show no activity around the NK Nuclear Plant. Regardless of what NK has claimed, they have not re-started the plant yet. They must know that we can 'see' that.
FWIW, my understanding was that the Repub Guard did not just up-and-quit, they got their butts kicked before they even saw the Coalition's armored divisions coming. If you have fighting in cities this time 'round, the Repub Guard cannot be decimated from a distance.
That wasn't the Republican Guard we saw surrendering to TV news crews and helicopters in '91, that uas un-fed and un-led conscript fodder. Two RG divisions were destroyed (one totally, utterly disappeared) before we foolishly let the rest of them leave the Basra area - mostly intact. They were outclassed. Totally outclassed. And the NKs would be too, no matter how fanatical and motivated. Still bloody, though... Rough terrain.
