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[None of their business] Japan measuring people's waistlines

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XxShadyPinkxX said:

It's a pretty douche-y thing to say, but the man has a right to his opinion. Doesn't offend me.
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Being judgmental behind an anonymous keyboard when others don't know your physical deficiencies, more like a right to be a dipsh1t...

#61 v3.0, Jun 13, 2008

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lol..

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those japanese people are freaking weird.

30 waist size beeeeeeeeeeeeeeyatches.

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yaoluv said:

i for one feel that the enigma of japan running into peoples waists is understated in todays society as we here in us feel that waist is a private public matter and this is to be understood because of our culture and beliefs leading to a feeling of this way however it is not truly private because obviously waist size can be construed as elephants have wastes as well and i dont truly believe that a waist can be completely hidden except for if one were to where no belt or maybe a large overcoat in the style of some older people and or cultures such as maybe the eskimos or inuits as some may call them in history but the belt can be hidden but the number of holes used may not be so as for it to be public it is hard to say for sure how one may feel upon this matter but if you may be less than comfortable one would maybe recommend that you not travel to such countries where your waste size would be public and maybe you should not be able to hear or see others wastes such as if everyone wore blinders and then there would be peace because wastes could not be seen and would be private as they ought to be but who can really say what the ideal waste size would be in my opinion it is very hard to say for sure what size waste would be ideal it depends on many factors such as hereditary diet amongst other things that one may not be privy to the information to submit i feel like this information is unknowable and maybe be harmful to the person knowing especially if there are samurais on the loose which have been known to be used in ancient feudal systems where one could make the argument that japan and other east asian communities feel the same way about waist size because of the dietary needs of the peoples of these communities are different than the waist size needs of lesser valued communities in the region so it is hard for a samurai to say for sure if that would be the case or if there is some other element at work that would make it difficult and the information once there gleaned would make life difficult for some waist size people that need help living there day to day life in front where the news goes to make bob go to school but i dont think this would be fair to these various civilizations in the past sushi has a small waste but that does not stop sushi from being held to the same standard of public measurement except in some marketplace where to for buy and then when time stands still and sushi no longer exist the moon will come over the hill and the people and fish will be liberated by the one true moon and then they will rejoice in their knowledge but that is neither here nore there nor anywhere for that matter that is proper discussion on these internet web message boards such as these particularly discussing basketball and the yao ming but i am happy that we as a people can publicly discuss pressing issues like waist size and others that make people happy or sad depending on what the facts and the mood might be such that a happy person when measured may remain happy but a sad person would obviously be very sad and this is not what one must say for sure if time would be there.
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Just saw on the same New York Times source (graphic) that the average waist measurement for American women is 36.4. I came in at 36.0. I tend to gain all over more than just in the stomach, and would still like to lose a good deal, but it makes me feel a little better.

Some people get more results from diet, and some from exercise. It depends on your individual makeup and metabolism. They both work, and some combination is best; for me, I feel happier and healthier using exercise as the main way to lose weight. It is hard to find the time sometimes. I have to go to class, go to work, practice my classical piano and other music, help my friends and fiance, and then work out.

True statements about white bread and sugar... learning to cook healthier at home, but it's hard to find convenience foods that are not made with white flour or other simple carbs. I have learned to like, or at least eat, multigrain crackers, brown rice, "birdseed bread", and other things I thought I never would. A lot of you have lucky genes and don't really have to work that hard to look great; you can eat all that common fast food and junk food, work out only occasionally, and still be OK. Those of us who are overweight are not necessarily pigging out.

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Hmm - 5'9 197 here - and I think it's a good idea.

I'd like to get down to a 34 waist from a comfortable 38.

But the measurements they are using in Japan are ridiculous - you'll never see a bunch of skinnier people running around in a first world nation. Some of the older men sport a small pot-belly, but that's about it.

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They should Outlaw HIGH FRUTOSE SUGAR

How about taxing businesses that serve fatty foods
Like we tax cigarettes?

I mean . . if those chocolate cakes cost 10$ a slice that would be a start
right??

I can See 'fatties' huddles in corners passing cake to each other looking around to see who is watching . . .so they don't get busted

Drive the 'fatties' to the underground . . . .

Rocket River
this is hilarious to me .. . . if you thought the DRUG WAR was crazy . . .

#68 Rocket River, Jun 13, 2008
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The hell you say, cake, cheeseburgers and and a nice malt to wash it down with.
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good lord...

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good lord...
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Thats not even dinner, its just my pre-meal snack.

Does that offend your delicate sensibilities?

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Isabel said:

Just saw on the same New York Times source (graphic) that the average waist measurement for American women is 36.4. I came in at 36.0. I tend to gain all over more than just in the stomach, and would still like to lose a good deal, but it makes me feel a little better.

Some people get more results from diet, and some from exercise. It depends on your individual makeup and metabolism. They both work, and some combination is best; for me, I feel happier and healthier using exercise as the main way to lose weight. It is hard to find the time sometimes. I have to go to class, go to work, practice my classical piano and other music, help my friends and fiance, and then work out.

True statements about white bread and sugar... learning to cook healthier at home, but it's hard to find convenience foods that are not made with white flour or other simple carbs. I have learned to like, or at least eat, multigrain crackers, brown rice, "birdseed bread", and other things I thought I never would. A lot of you have lucky genes and don't really have to work that hard to look great; you can eat all that common fast food and junk food, work out only occasionally, and still be OK. Those of us who are overweight are not necessarily pigging out.
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surely you jest
Imagine . .. . trying to bring HOME EC back into high schools
Folx so busy b*tching about Sex Ed not being taught
but
HOME EC seems to have gone the way of the weasel

Imagine trying to convince people to pay for kids to learn
to cook healthy foods . . .. . NOT ON MY DOLLAR!!!

the problem with these type of things are . . .
THIS IS THE RULE . .well you pay for sticking to it out of your own pocket
we win't gonna try to help you in any way form or fashion

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Rocket River said:

They should Outlaw HIGH FRUTOSE SUGAR

How about taxing businesses that serve fatty foods
Like we tax cigarettes?

I mean . . if those chocolate cakes cost 10$ a slice that would be a start
right??

I can See 'fatties' huddles in corners passing cake to each other looking around to see who is watching . . .so they don't get busted

Drive the 'fatties' to the underground . . . .

Rocket River
this is hilarious to me .. . . if you thought the DRUG WAR was crazy . . .
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its year 2040 and the sale of illicit pizza is now a $100 billion underground industry.

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my waist is a 40 and you guys that think fat people are the root of all evil can kiss the fattest part of my a$$.

6'2" 240

I guarantee you if I die early it wont be form fat related illnesses, it will be from smoking related illnesses.

oh...you think that is disgustin too?

join the club.

btw...them Japanese are weird little people....but I think we already knew that.

#74 Rockets2K, Jun 13, 2008
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31 waist.

I think I'm gonna treat myself to some chocolate cake.

See cake should be a reward & not a snack between cheeseburgers.
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If I have 2 kids, work 14 hours a day, and make almost 7 fig income to support my family... and have a 35 waistline...I am supposed to worship you oh god of the 31 inchline?

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Locke said:

If I have 2 kids, work 14 hours a day, and make almost 7 fig income to support my family... and have a 35 waistline...I am supposed to worship you oh god of the 31 inchline?
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I like how you come off as such an insecure jackass in your response to a relatively benign post. Maybe you're still mad about the picture thread being shut down?

jgreen91 said:

Fatty foods aren't really what make you fat. It is excess simple carbs and Sugar!!!!!! People in the USA eat too much sugar and too many simple carbs like white bread, etc!!!!!
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Eh. How much white rice does the typical japanese family consume?

That's not to say fat alone makes you fat -- it's consuming too much fat that makes you fat. And consuming refined sugar and high fructose corn syrup definitely does the job too.

I mean, if more people would take the time to buy fresh food and actually cook for themselves (dumping the contents of a prepackaged frozen bag into a saute pan does not = cooking), I really don't think we'd be having such an obesity issue in this country. I'm also convinced that there's a correlation between the amount of red meat your typical american eats and the average weight of your typical american.

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What if no one were fat?

http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Insurance/Advice/WhatIfNoOneWereFat.aspx

Imagine a lean and healthy America: The savings on medical, fuel, food and other costs would be enough to give every U.S. household more than $4,000.

Editor's note: This is part of an occasional series on financial what-ifs.

In the United States today, 66% of adults are overweight. Almost 33% of adults are obese, and 4.7% are morbidly obese, or more than 100 pounds overweight. But . . .

What if nobody in America were fat?

We'd save billions of dollars in gas. Airlines would double their profits. A dearth of diabetes and other diseases would save billions of dollars more -- and put thousands of doctors on the street. McDonald's would sell not Big Macs but little steamed chicken snacks -- or watch its profits melt away. Productivity would rise, potentially creating tens of thousands more jobs or higher wages all around.

Add up the savings up on health, food, clothing and efficiencies, and you could buy a professional home gym for every U.S. household -- or hand each $4,270 in cash.

$487 billion in gas, sweat and stretch pants
Yes, it sounds a little wild, but the implications of a leaner, meaner country add up to a weighty $487 billion. That's almost 3.5% of gross domestic product, no small sum.

Mind you, only 1.8% of that is new growth. The rest is a radical shift in resources, away from the needs of our bigger citizens to . . . well, whatever we and our overlords would spend these extra billions on.

First, let's put the meat on that $487 billion. The estimates below assume the average American adult is at least 20 pounds overweight, a figure nutritionists see as fair.

Savings on fuel for cars and airlines due to their lighter loads would top $5 billion, according to industry studies. Researchers say each overweight driver burns about 18 additional gallons of gas a year, or just under a billion gallons altogether. Savings in the air are far greater: The jet-fuel savings alone could double North American airlines' forecast 2008 profits to $3.8 billion and maybe persuade them to stop stranding passengers because they can't afford the fuel for flights. As for oil imports, they'd be dented by less than 1%.

Plus-sized clothing costs 10% to 15% more, so shoppers would save $10 billion on shirts, pants and dresses. And clothes might fit better too. Cynthia Istook, an associate professor in textile apparel at North Carolina State University, says the economies of making fewer sizes would be tremendous. Clothing makers could then afford to offer more variety in hip and bust sizes, rather than asking every woman to squeeze into an hourglass shape.

Overweight employees are affecting the health of corporate America, costing companies an estimated $45 billion a year.

Because 3,500 calories translates into a pound of fat, somewhere along the way, America's 227 million adults have eaten 16 trillion calories too many. That's 14 billion Big Mac meals, with fries and a soda. Eliminate those and you wipe out $81 billion, or McDonald's past four years of sales.

If Americans were slim and maintained their weight by eating 150 fewer calories a day (half a slice of pizza), that could snip roughly 6.5%, or $20 billion a year, off U.S. farmers' sales (assuming no extra exports). Bob Young, the American Farm Bureau's chief economist, says farmers would cope. They'd switch some land from fattening seed oils and sugar beets to fruits and vegetables. Or they might grow corn for ethanol, or even open a hunting resort.

The medical costs of obesity-related problems such as diabetes, stroke and heart disease run near $140 billion, or more than 6% of all health-care costs. That ballpark figure was calculated by Joel Cohen, an economic researcher for the Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality, using data from a 1998 Centers for Disease Control and Prevention study. Cohen reckons that if no one were fat, medical insurance costs would fall -- to everyone's delight -- and doctors and drug makers could do more preventive care. That sounds good, but Roland Sturm, a senior economist for Rand in Santa Monica, Calif., doubts anyone would pay for preventive care. More likely, he says, some doctors would be on the street. "They could drive cabs," he suggests.

Productivity in the workplace would jump as people took fewer sick days and spent less time at work feeling unwell. Ross DeVol, the director of health economics at the Milken Institute, says the loss of productivity due to people showing up at work sick is "immense." Using a recent Milken report on the subject, he calculates that if no one were obese, the added output from workers and their caregivers would give the country a $257 billion boost. That's 1.8% of GDP, enough extra output to allow businesses to hire tens of thousands more workers or to raise wages, economists say. Or at least, that's the theory. Given bosses' love of expanding their profits and their own pay, you can count on some of this being spirited away. Just look at 2000 to 2005, when worker productivity rose 16.6% while median wages rose less than half that amount.

"Jenny Craig would be very unhappy" if everyone were slim, says Rand's Sturm. And so she would, along with the rest of the $55 billion weight-loss industry. Trimmed-down citizens would be swapping their diet pills for bikinis and their gastric-banding for nose jobs.

What to do with all that money?
On top of these savings would be billions of dollars more. Manufacturers and builders wouldn't have to make doorways bigger, car seats wider, furniture stouter. Some even argue that global warming would slow a mite, as consumption of gas, energy, fertilizer and methane-producing cattle decreased.

Even without those extras, the $487 billion reshuffle of the economy would put us on the spot. Exactly how would we spend all this freed-up cash? Optimists sing about improving education or medical research. Others figure we'd fritter away the money.

It seems, in fact, that economists have a word for our usual behavior: suboptimal. That's what we do. We suboptimize. We think short term instead of long term, reducing our chances of living healthily and happily ever after.

So assuming we didn't behave like angels, the net effect on the economy of a slimmer population would be a lot of reshuffled resources, with a nice rise in productivity that should take our living standards up a notch.

The social gains are more difficult to predict. Research has shown that people who are not obese marry more, are paid more, are promoted more, sleep better and have better sex lives. We don't yet know whether people earn less because they're fat, or whether they're fat because they earn less. Researchers suspect it is the former because there's some evidence of discrimination against the obese.

Overweight employees are affecting the health of corporate America, costing companies an estimated $45 billion a year.

Either way, a slimmer society would, arguably, seem to be more secure and content.

But, of course, then we have the awful question: Can we all be paid more and promoted more and marry more? Only to a limited degree.

Jay Zagorsky, a sociology researcher at Ohio State University, is convinced that society would adjust. We might lose an awful lot of people to pick on, but he concludes: "They will find something else. If it's not the size of your waist, it may be the size of your nose."
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yaoluv said:

i for one feel that the enigma of japan running into peoples waists is understated in todays society as we here in us feel that waist is a private public matter and this is to be understood because of our culture and beliefs leading to a feeling of this way however it is not truly private because obviously waist size can be construed as elephants have wastes as well and i dont truly believe that a waist can be completely hidden except for if one were to where no belt or maybe a large overcoat in the style of some older people and or cultures such as maybe the eskimos or inuits as some may call them in history but the belt can be hidden but the number of holes used may not be so as for it to be public it is hard to say for sure how one may feel upon this matter but if you may be less than comfortable one would maybe recommend that you not travel to such countries where your waste size would be public and maybe you should not be able to hear or see others wastes such as if everyone wore blinders and then there would be peace because wastes could not be seen and would be private as they ought to be but who can really say what the ideal waste size would be in my opinion it is very hard to say for sure what size waste would be ideal it depends on many factors such as hereditary diet amongst other things that one may not be privy to the information to submit i feel like this information is unknowable and maybe be harmful to the person knowing especially if there are samurais on the loose which have been known to be used in ancient feudal systems where one could make the argument that japan and other east asian communities feel the same way about waist size because of the dietary needs of the peoples of these communities are different than the waist size needs of lesser valued communities in the region so it is hard for a samurai to say for sure if that would be the case or if there is some other element at work that would make it difficult and the information once there gleaned would make life difficult for some waist size people that need help living there day to day life in front where the news goes to make bob go to school but i dont think this would be fair to these various civilizations in the past sushi has a small waste but that does not stop sushi from being held to the same standard of public measurement except in some marketplace where to for buy and then when time stands still and sushi no longer exist the moon will come over the hill and the people and fish will be liberated by the one true moon and then they will rejoice in their knowledge but that is neither here nore there nor anywhere for that matter that is proper discussion on these internet web message boards such as these particularly discussing basketball and the yao ming but i am happy that we as a people can publicly discuss pressing issues like waist size and others that make people happy or sad depending on what the facts and the mood might be such that a happy person when measured may remain happy but a sad person would obviously be very sad and this is not what one must say for sure if time would be there.
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Paging Hayesfan...

#78 Sooner423, Jun 14, 2008

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Isn't the parliment of Japan called the Diet of Japan? Lol, so aptely named.

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What a free country.

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