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Noah: Boozer = Real Man, Bosh = Not So Much?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Carl Herrera, Aug 9, 2010.

  1. Easy

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    Boozer is a man COMPARED to Bosh the wuss. But he's no man when he ditched LeBron and the Cavs to play for the evil Jazz. In a way, Bosh was as sneaky as Boozer when it came to "decision."
     
  2. 34to11

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    Are you serious?

    You are faulting a man for accepting (actually a little bit less than) what the market says he is worth?

    And then you blast him for being willing to accept a lesser role in order to win?
     
  3. Tom Bombadillo

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    Noah is 100% accurate...
     
  4. University Blue

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    I agree.

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  5. bullardfan

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    yup. he should shoulder a lot of the blame for the Cavs not winning. had he stayed and ricky davis was traded all in one they wouldve won at least one.
     
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    Clutchfans.net - Where Fans Argue with Themselves
     
  7. A_3PO

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    Great post!
     
  8. Jontro

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    I was never big on Bosh in the first place. Nothing personal with him, I just think he's a bit lacking as a player.

    Boozer on the other hand is a megadouche. Noah's an idiot who needs to keep his mouth shut. When he says things like these it really shows how truly stupid the kid is. I guess all those years in college were spent on basketball, not edimacation.
     
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    rocket fans liking a former utah player. What a bunch of p*****s
     
  10. meh

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    Are you asking people as Rockets fans or just in general?

    In general, I don't really care too much. It's a free country, and they can do whatever the hell they want.

    As a Rockets fan, it annoys me. Those three playing together at best would not affect the Rockets at all(assuming we suck too much), and at worst hinders our championship aspirations. And I don't even mean just from an on-the-court standpoint. As in we'd be underdogs if we get into the finals. But rather, Lebron/Wade/Bosh destroyed Morey's huge assumption about players: that they go where the money is and where they can be alpha dogs. So in that sense, yeah, Boozer was much better than Bosh. Because Boozer acted normally by taking his cash grab. While Bosh acted abnormally by willing to play 3rd fiddle while taking less money.

    As a fan of a team that is not the most desirable FA location and relies heavily on GM constructing a contender, what Lebron/Wade/Bosh did pretty much gives all such teams a big FU. They're making it seem like it doesn't matter how smart or responsible GMs like Morey, Buford, Petrie, and the likes are. We're still screwed because even the best GMs can't just pull superstars out of nowhere.
     
  11. trueroxfan

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    sorry, did they ever say they wanted to play with Bosh?
     
  12. Rookie34

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    I agree 100%, dude!
     
  13. roslolian

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    Who's the real mastermind of the decision? Is it Lebron? Wade? Or is it RILEY?

    The trio was created due to the efforts and careful planning of another GM. If Riley hadn't convinced Wade to stay in Miami, hadn't manipulated his roster to clear enough space to get 3 near max contracts, and hadn't sold LBJ on the idea it wouldn't have happened.

    Its not like LBJ woke up one day and decided he'll play with Wade and Bosh. Of course Wade did a lot of recruiting, but I doubt he would have gone all-in if the Heat's gm was someone lincompetent like say, Kahn.
     
  14. Shaud

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    Umm all 3 of them had meetings about their future and Boozer was not at the meeting.
     
  15. A_3PO

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    Dead on. If Riles was the GM of the Bulls, the trio would have signed with Chicago.
     
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    So you're implying that Riley would've gotten the big 3 if he didn't already have Wade to conspire with in the first place? I'm going to have to call BS on that. Riley isn't the indispensable component to them coming together. Any good GM(and no, Kahn is not a good GM) could've cleared enough salary and given them the "being in South Beach with 3 stars kicks ass" sales pitch.

    So yeah, I'm saying it's the players who are far and away the most important pieces in the equation. Without the players, Riley could've done jack. It's only with the 3 players' blessings that Riley could even hatch the plan in the first place.
     
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    No I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying the big 3 might have wanted it to happen, but Riley was the one who made it come true.

    Any good GM? LMAO, do you think clearing salary is that easy? That Riley was taking a dump 3 weeks before the decision when he all of a sudden decided its time to clear the books so the big 3 can come in? It takes careful planning to do that, esp. the way Riles did it where it caught the entire league unawares. NY had a 2 year timetable and had to allow us to rape them, and they still cleared less capspace than Miami had. The truth is Riley had a plan and he stuck to it, he wasn't tempted by mediocre FAs who could clog his cap.

    Also none of this was fixed until the contract signing. Miami was treading water as is. Wade could have gone to the Bulls, considering it was his hometown. LBJ still had to be wooed and his ego stroked. Bosh? Yeah, he was probably the only given, however if Wade and LBJ had left he wouldn't have gone there.

    The point is, all these guys had other options that were also pretty good. Sure they would have loved teaming up, but if Miami had been bogged down by crap contracts would they have done it? No. If they didn't have confidence on Riley to get it done long term would they have done it? No. Saying "any good GM" could have made it happen is like saying any good GM could have built a dynasty around Tim Duncan.
     
  18. TheFreak

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    Which is also true.
     
  19. Icehouse

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    This is very true. Riley deserves props because he managed to clear cap room without tanking. The Heat still made the playoffs. I also think folks are underrating the fact that Riley has won, and won a lot, and dealt with a bunch of stars before, and build a title team from scratch before. You don't think any of that had something to do with folks deciding Miami over Chicago?
     
  20. A_3PO

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    Solid post. For reasons beyond me, some people here don't want to give Riles any credit at all for making it happen in Miami. I don't like him much, but the guy has his stuff together and knows what he's doing.
     

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