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No Verlander Appreciation Thread Needed

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by lnchan, May 7, 2021.

  1. lnchan

    lnchan LeonardTX26
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    From 10 minutes ago...
     
  2. RKREBORN

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    Yup, but let's make one after he leaves us for New York
     
  3. Mr.Scarface

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    Yankees are not signing a 37 year old+ pitcher coming off Tommy John surgery.

    I suspect he and the Astros will come to an arrangement.
     
  4. marks0223

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    790 is about to air his live zoom meeting
     
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    Verlander is going to come back for the playoffs, take the closer role due the TJ, and dominate in 1 inning stints. Someone is going to buy into him being healthy and a winner, and he's going to get paid. Then we get a lockout anyway.
     
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    He's a FA after this season though so one might still be needed.
     
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    Earn your keep- pitch for league min for the next 5 years.

     
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    He needs to go Smoltz closer route late this season and next season. Then go back to starting.
     
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    I’m calling that he returns next year on a QO before going back to the Tigers for a few years to close out his career
     
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    Love this
     
  14. Tomstro

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    Verlander as a closer? Remember all the 1st inning bombs he surrendered?
     
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    I'm calling that he is on the playoff roster.
     
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    It is a different chess match closer vs starter.

    As a starter, you may save a pitch until the 2nd or 3rd at bats. You may hold a little back on you fast ball to get more pitches. You also know you are facing guys 3 times so you may set them up or try to sneak easy pitches by the first at bat.

    As closer, with 4 good pitches JV could have the advantage. But it will take work. Issue will be can he get loose quickly between innings and how will he adjust to the MLB cracking down on substances.
     
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    I wonder how much this also will affect teams willingness to pay this winter. He rejuvenated his career in Houston and, like it or not, the suspicion will be that he was assisted in that effort.

    I would love to see him back, and think the combination of comfort here, slight guilt for cashing out the last two years, and a very soft market should lead to a reasonable deal - maybe a one year deal with a player option for year 2.
     
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    You could get a cat to do it.
     
  19. Nick

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    They're a lot more pitchers out there, with a lot less natural talent and no HOF pedigree such as JV, that should be more worried about what the lack of sticky stuff will do to their careers.

    I do expect a market correction. Too bad the Yankees or Dodgers can't get a rebate on Cole/Bauer's 40 million/year.
     
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  20. Nick

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    As a closer, its all about command and throwing strikes. Some starters have adopted that mentality as well (Urquiddy) but as a starter you're also not as worried about one guy reaching base being possibly the end of the game.

    Some hitters will take a different approach in the 9th, sacrificing power for contact. Others will get themselves out knowing that they gotta make something happen. In the end, the 9th inning statistics probably play out like most other innings in the long run.... sorta like how if a player plays enough playoff games, even if he's deemed "clutch", his numbers will eventually regress towards their career numbers.
     
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