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No Tmac, no Artest, no Ariza, no Yao..the Rockets are boring once again

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by W22_STREAK, Oct 16, 2010.

  1. W22_STREAK

    W22_STREAK Member

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    Ariza wasn't?
     
  2. Rip Van Rocket

    Rip Van Rocket Contributing Member

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    I'll be glad when the regular season starts, and the Rockets get off to a great start, then maybe these ridiculous threads will come to an end. Winning is fun to watch and losing is boring to watch. The Rockets are going to win a lot of games this year, and it will be exciting to see how far they go.
     
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    And Shane Battier was the perfect "never-ever-beaten-in-position-100%-of-the-time" all-star defender?

    Look, getting beaten by your man is a norm no matter how good your defense was. Ariza wasn't meant to assume the role of Shane Battier on this team. He was meant to be playing like an all-star style for us and was meant to be a two-way player. Now Battier wasn't. Battier could just spend all his energy on the defensive end of the floor and then all he had to do on offense was camp out on the 3 point corner. Even Kobe gets beaten by his man, and Kobe is an elite defender.

    On offense? He was basically all where our wing production came from. Whoever was there to share the offensive workload for most of the season? Shane Battier the offensive juggernaut? Ariza was often playing as a 6'8 shooting guard, launching 3's, posting up, cutting, alley-oops and so on. Ariza was the most complete player on the team last year. You guys are all overlooking the value of the steals he had and the transition offense Trevor brought to the team. Very often Trevor picked out a pass with his freakishly-long arms and sailed down the court for a wide-open easy dunk. Sure it only appeared on the scorebook as a steal (sometimes not even a steal would be recorded as deflections that lead to a steal by a teammate are not recorded by the scorebook).

    This video proves it all:

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    I think you'd prefer to watch the Suns than the Spurs, correct?
     
  6. W22_STREAK

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    This is a gentleman who knows what I mean.
     
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    Err...QUALITY over quantity. The number of posts each poster has does not play a factor at all. I could have 100 posts and I could get a greenstar or I could have 10000 posts and still have a grey star. Why are you even debating the number of posts I have?

    Now back onto the topic at hand. You're clearly stretching your example too far. Yao might would not have been gone if T-Mac was able to hold down the fort as a first option? Come on , man, thats just ridiculous. You're basically suggesting that role players are way less likely to get injured than stars, because obviously role players have less of a workload than the stars and so they probably last longer on the floor. Excuse me?

    And also you're saying T-Mac was a whiner and a diva??! Um, have you not met any of the other superstars in the league? Maybe you want to talk about Mr MVP Kobe Bryant? FFS, the dude demanded a trade from the franchise that dedicated its entire history to him! LeBron? Not a whiner nor a diva? ooo...Allen Iverson? Was totally Mr Perfect in Philadelphia? Its like saying being American and eating burgers was supposed to be somehow a bad thing, and yet everyones doing it left and right. (which obviously says its not really wrong/bad after all)
     
  8. Rip Van Rocket

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    I don't care if the team runs up and down the court or plays a slow half court game. All I want is for the team to win games, and I don't care how they do it. When Hakeem was playing some people complained that we just ran the same play over and over again, but we won two championships and I think most people were pretty happy about that. I think the Offense that Adelman runs is fun to watch, and I think we have a lot of exciting players.
     
  9. aussiejack

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    go screw yourself. i'm not going to waste the time of my day reading your post when you preface it with indignity about the rockets. they are a hard working bunch of players, who despite the odds stacked against them, always overachieve.
     
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    When did Tmac dunk or drive the lane?
     
  11. RedRedemption

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    OP is a ****ing idiot. Does he not realize how many games Ariza cost us last year with him jacking up WIDEOPEN threes and bricking them badly. Or attempting to put the ball in his hands in the fourth quarter, instead of giving it to Brooks who can shoot better than Ariza can.

    McGrady? We traded him because he could barely run 4 minutes out on the court before crying like a little b****.

    Artest? He left because we didn't give him the contract he wanted, and he wanted to cop out to the Lakers.

    Yao Ming? Really? Sure let's play him 48 minutes a game and completely pulverize his foot to the point where he can't walk. Athletes are not PLAY THINGS. Athletes are PEOPLE. They don't like getting injured and would not sacrifice their body to the point where it would turn into a chronic problem.
     
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    Tracy never embodied what the Rockets are. No one is discrediting him for his past accomplishment or overall god given gifts.

    But the mentality of a Rocket to me is what Yao, Hayes, Battier, Scola,Lowry express. Grab a hard hat and your lunch box and get your a$$ to work.

    I'm not sure what you as a fan really want, "Starpower" to me is irrelevant if you can't even get out of the first round of the playoffs.
     
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    Ariza??? who???
     
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    Don't drink and post.
     
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    My thoughts
     
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    OP has won the knee jerker of the year award...without a doubt.
     
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    It's a stupid argument.
     
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    oooooooooooooh...i see what triggered this thread...i thought surely houston had lost and had trouble scoring...then i see the win int he boxscore....so i'm confused...until i see battier's statline. OP is upset battier had a good offensive game and is now trying to find something negative about it. role player=Battier=boring
     
  19. BDswangHTX

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    dude sorry but you're f@g. go hump tracy's leg or something because there's no such thing as t-mac anymore and hasn't been in 5 years. ron ron and ariza god knows what you see in them. like for real, this is some drunk rambling self richeous bullshyt.
     
  20. mFt82

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    Dude needs to lay off the pipe. Trevor Ariza was never the "heart and soul" of anything. He's an overpaid role player with reallygood defense which covers up for his junior high-esque offensive game.

    The only thing spectacular about mcgradys game, while in Houston, was his vernacular. He said it best, "it's on [him]." he failed. In fact, he has failed to do anything for every team he's ever been on. He is, however, really good at doing things for himself.

    Ron Artest is whatever Ron Artest wants to be. He wanted to be a Laker. No amount of money or accolades could change that.

    Yao is whatever Yao will be. He's not Hakeem. He's not Shaquille. He's not Ewing, or Jabbar, or dwight Howard. He's coming back from a crisis and, based on every other situation which bears any resemblance to Yao's, the powers that be hav
     

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