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"No team will ever win a championship with Battier playing a significant role "

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by RV6, Jun 21, 2012.

  1. RV6

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    He wasn't needed as a starter with Lebron?

    The series wasnt that close?

    Battier did not start?


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    Even saying he was insignificant, until the finals, is a stretch. You can't play as many minutes as he did, win series after series, and be insignificant. Lebron/wade/bosh aren't THAT good. If they were, they'd be celebrating back to back titles right now.
     
  2. thetatomatis

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    He was teamed with a trio expected to win several championships. 3 guys, Chalmers, Mike Miller who is about as good as Battier is, and Haslem. For the Rockets? It was bad move for the 8th pick in the draft. It just was. As you can see it always will be until Morey gets another 8th pick, Rudy Gay, or another star.
     
  3. thetatomatis

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    What does the Miami Heats stacked team have to do with a busted up Yao and Tmac? They are the TRIO. With or without Battier will be back in the Finals next year too.
     
  4. RV6

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    The point is to win the finals, not just be in them. That's why Lebron left cleveland, remember?

    Even Mark Cuban mentioned Lebron's "help" didn't make the right plays last year and that's why they lost. Battier made the right plays, and at almost 40 mins a game, there were a lot of them.
     
  5. thetatomatis

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    On the Heat. A totally different team than the Rockets.
     
  6. thetatomatis

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    Which still still has neither Battier or Rudy Gay. Battier on a Heat team that already does not need him to start or score for most nights. Two completely different situations that shows Miami got him for next to nothing to be a compliment to a already FINALS team. Not a first round exit missing multiple pieces team.
     
  7. AXG

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    I was in the Battier-bashing crowd when he was in Houston, but I'll admit he stepped up in the Finals. What were usually bricks in Houston actually were buckets for the cHeat, so I'll give him credit. Same thing for Mike Miller.
     
  8. RV6

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    I'm sorry that you think Battier was supposed to be part of a big three in Houston because that was never the case. Third best player? Possibly, but that's different from being one of a "big three". The guy that was truly brought in to help with the scoring was Bonzi Wells, not Battier. Battier came in for a Derek Fisher type role.

    Just because you don't think Battier was worth the #8 doesn't change what Battier is worth to a team. Have to separate the 2. I didn't like the trade either, but understood the team's thought process. However, i'm not going to hate Battier for the rest of my life over that. It's like hating Darko for being picked over Wade. Get over the trade and evaluate the player for what they're currently doing and what Battier did was step up when he needed to. Made plays when needed, clutch ones too. Those that still can't give him credit now are acting out the true definition of a "hater".
     
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    Oh, you big fat hairy p***y, why can't you just admit that you were wrong? I swear, this is the problem with our chest-puffing, narcisstic, Twitter/Facebook/Pinterest-obsessed society- people are so petrified of being wrong that they can't just come clean and admit, "Yes, I said it. Yes, I was completely wrong." Big....fat...hairy....t**t.
     
  10. Zboy

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    I do not know whether to laugh or cry that the Rockets fans are excited that..

    1) They got Battier for a lottery pic.

    2) Got Hasheem Thabeet in return for him.

    3) Miami gives up nothing for him and pays him less than they pay Joel Anthony.

    4) He won a championship with the Houst....err Miami Heat!

    Oh yeah...Rockets sure came out as winners!!!!!

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    ^Sometimes you gotta admit that you were DEAD-WRONG. He was brought in to be a complimentary piece on a championship team. Yao and Mcgrady failed him. Not the way around.

    I called him a scrub and thought he was done, which was a knee-kerk reaction by me. He was an absolute G in the Finals.
     
  12. Sleepy Flloyd

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    Got damn bro, i hear ya, but isnt da finals da BIGGEST STAGE IN BASKETBALL WHERE IT MATTERS MOST?? :rolleyes:



    Shane was a GOD in these finals, he earned every penny and was a MAJOR contributtion to them winning
     
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    Ah... the back-tracking. "Modify"? Instead of "no team will ever," we have "some teams can"? Basically the exact opposite.

    As of the date of the statement, 2/13/2011, the "super friends" team was already formed and Shane Battier was a 10-year vet on an expiring contract. One might think that signing a FA contract with Miami was one of the likely outcomes of the Shane Battier free agency. Guess such a fact wasn't contemplated when the statement was made.
     
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    You have to admit when you are wrong when he is gone and didnt work here. Thats all there is to it. Miami Heat a stacked team where they didnt get him for the 8th pick is not you argument. Its the Heats. You lost. Miami won by doing it the right way for next to nothing and now celebrate Battiers championship with the Heat. Not the Rockets.
     
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    Another thing is as long as he is there for next to nothing. We dont have a 8th pick, Rudy Gay, another star after that trade? You wont ever be right. For the Rockets. For the Heat? They made a good decision. The rockets and Morey? Have nothing to do with that decision now that he is gone for nothing. When he didnt help them get past the first round? It will always be wrong. For as long as you live. EVER.:grin::grin:
     
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    LOL @ The Battier nuthuggers rising out of the woods right now ...

    The simple fact is the Miami team is so top-heavy there was literally no one besides the big 3. If Battier didn't play those minutes, who would? James Jones? WOWOW. Lets play James Jones for 30 minutes per game when he can barely get a contract in the NBA anymore.

    Battier's defense was average at best. Yes, he did great, and I'd say he won them 2 or 3 very close games with his great 3 point shooting. But where was that against Utah? Huh?

    Battier didn't rebound assist score or do anything except hit those really meaningful 3's. I guess in which case yes he was really useful in this series.

    But again, where were those 3's against Utah?
     
  18. rolyat93

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    LOL @ you pretending Battier didn't play his ass off.;)
     
  19. W22_STREAK

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    And your point is? who didn't? :eek::rolleyes:
     
  20. W22_STREAK

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    You are right bro. The painful truth will always linger in every Houston Rocket's fan's minds. Its crazy cos we gave up so much for this scrub at such a crucial time. If we gave up Lowry + Dragic for Battier right now, I wouldn't care. In fact, I'd welcome the move. I can't recall one good thing Battier did during the Yao - Tmac years.
     

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