We were united over Afghanistan. Bush fumbled over the Iraq debate. Why is Lieberman repeating the same talking points that has failed the Republican party since 06? Total victory was expected. As we've painfully learned, there were no contingencies for insurgencies or sectarian uprisings. There was no planning beyond Bush's Mission Accomplished. Instead, the Republicans were gleefully using the opportunity to rub their successes in the faces of all who opposed them. btw, Ret. Gen Sanchez must be bankrupt from buying all that paper to cover his butt. The rest is already being discussed by other posters. The release of Sen. Lieberman's commentary is very coincidental in light of Sen. Hagel's recent comments.
Not really, wes. Have you spent much time in Switzerland? The country is a trip. You can go to a place for lunch in the heart of downtown (pick a Swiss city), and sit at a table next to a member of the Swiss military, in uniform, who has the Swiss equivalent with him of an M-16/AK-47. You can see them strolling down the street like that. You can drive on a Swiss highway and, if you try just a little, spot hangers built into mountainsides that hold jet fighters that can take off and land from that highway you are on. Just a couple of examples. It really is another country. Impeach Bush.
I won't waste my time commenting, but that is a sorry article by Lieberman. I have no respect for his intellectual honesty at all. I'll never forget how Dick Cheney (of all people) destroyed the flake during their debate in 2000. He made Lieberman look like a fool and he's acted like one ever since.
^^^It's been quite obvious for a while what country Lieberman has more allegiance too. And it ain't America
Lieberman's misguided support of Israel expansionism and their version of the neo-cons (not all Israelis think that way) is causing a lot of Israelis to migrate to the US where they feel safer and paradoxically to be in a country that does not privilege their religion over the others.
Hey! I've said here before, the best way to solve all this is to just give Texas to the Jews. They'd have their own land (lots more by the way) and be safe and happy. Problem solved.
I guess Israel might not survive. First they negotiate with the Syrians and now Hamas. ********** I guess Israel is not long to survive according to Lieberman since they are negotiating rather than attacking militarily. ******* Hamas, Israel appear on brink of cease-fire Hamas officials in Egypt Monday considered terms of a possible 'tahadiyeh,' or calming, in recent fighting with Israel even as violence flared on both sides of the border. By Joshua Mitnick | Correspondent of The Christian Science Monitor posted May 20, 2008 at 3:40 p.m. EDT E-mail Print Letter to the Editor Republish del.icio.us digg Page 1 of 2 Tel Aviv - In what could be the first agreement between Israel and Hamas since its takeover of the Gaza Strip last year, the two sides are believed to be on the verge of an informal pact to halt cross-border attacks and lift the economic siege on the 1.4 million Palestinians in the coastal enclave. http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0521/p25s09-wome.html
I think you missed my point. Like Switzerland, but for different reasons, the US is quite capable of defending itself against any enemy. I refer you to the Japanese reasoning for never considering an attack on the US mainland ("a rifleman behind every blade of grass"). The US doesn't have to react to every sabre rattled against us by second- and third-world countries. In part due to our strength, we can have a non-interventionist foreign policy without risk of being attacked.
basso - helpful hint: when you start a thread to bait people, you're the one who's supposed to keep his composure while others lash out in anger. It's not the other way around. Maybe you should take a break from posting threads to figure this out.
As the national security adviser testified under oath - a briefing entitled "Bin Laden Determined to Strike Within US" did NOT refer to possible attacks within the US - how was the poor guy to know?
On the subject of disengenuous perfidy, don't you like how basso gets all irate when Lieberman is not only exposed as a fool, but accused of *surprise* supporting isreali interests? Yet, at the same time he finds nothing wrong at all with accusing war opponents of everything from being unpatriotic (although, in fairness, no one with half a brain gives a **** about that one) to being in league with terrorists. To continue with disengenuous perfidy, basso also has a new tactic to avoid directly being made to look the fool himself anymore. He posts stupid blogs and commentaries, and then excuses himself from any actual commentary of his own outside of snarky one-liners. He's like a parody of neocon political tactics - plausible deniability coupled with outrageously stupid attacks and accusations. Unfortunately, this is not the general electorate or the Rush Limbaugh douchebags-with-anal-cysts hour; this is a reasonably articulate and informed community that sees right through this tripe for what it really is: Trolling. Trolling and asshattery.
We had a non-interventionist foreign policy before 9/11? That would surprise people in Belgrade, Haiti, Somalia, Sudan and Iraq.
1. We didn't have a non-interventionist foreign policy before 9/11, and we gave terrorists plenty of reason to attack us. Contrary to the belief of some, it is really, really, really hard to convince a young man to commit suicide because of America's freedoms. 2. Some have said that if we had more of our forces from all over the world at home, we could have defended ourselves from the 2nd WTC strike and the Pentagon strike. That may be dubious, but worth considering nonetheless. 3. We responded pretty much correctly to the 9/11 attacks. Then we got distracted.
Heck! You mean the fun I had remembering trips to Switzerland was in vain?? (not sure I agree, either, but don't feel like arguing about it) Impeach Bush.
