LOLOL...That is so ****ing hilarious! As for me...um...nevermind. Let's just say I agree completely! AB, there are men (like myself) who are very satisfied with their marriages, thus satisfied with the sex they receive. I've had my chances, same as everyone else, but so has my wife. But fifteen years of fidelity is not something to throw away on a one night stand. I really have to give props to my wife. She has always been able to sense when I have "gone too long without", and always surprises me in those instances. It's times like those that would really make me regret any indiscretion. Like others said, I could never lie and not get caught. Oh boy, if I did cheat, she would know, and I could kiss those "surprises" goodbye!
But the flip side to Cheb's argument is that women evolutionarily want the best sperm irregardless of whether it belongs to the best provider. Thus they have every reason if not more to sneakily cheat because they want to keep that provider. If some of you female's are disturbed by the males responses look at it this way. If you really trully know you wouldn't cheat with a "stud" even if you know you would get away with it--you can make a good bet you can find a male cut from the same mold (due to relegion, personal ethics, whatever). We have this capacity to contemplate and reflect for a reason. So now the question, how many women in the situation described by brother wouldn't take that sly liason with hubby out of town???
Then don't beat me up for disagreeing and imply my point is completely without merit because your associates are different.
When I was younger (very early twenties) and lived with someone, I did cheat on him, twice. The first time was a one-time deal, the second evolved into a longer relationship. I can honestly say, for me, it had very little to do with sex. I was young, insecure and in the habit of basing my self-esteem on how attractive I was to the opposite sex. The ardor of my live-in relationship had cooled considerably and I no longer felt attractive or desirable. When other men expressed interest in me, I felt better about myself. Ultimately, however, those romances would cool as well and I'd find myself feeling even more unattractive and horribly guilty as well. It was a pretty pathetic downward spiral. I got older, got married and began to realize that the only opinion of me that mattered was my own. It became pretty obvious that affairs say far less about the person you're having the affair with and far more about yourself.
Oh good, back to reality. I think it differs from man to man. I'm single at the moment, so there is about a 99.9999% chance I'd sleep with any (or all) of those women mentioned above. But if I were dating or married, I can't see myself doing it. But as I said before, every man is different.
I think about what if at times, but in reality I could never see myself without Roxy...especially now that I got 2 rugrats!
First I want to say that Achebe seems to not only justify his masturbation as a matter of survival, but somewhat ties it to his readiness to copulate...thus his male success or lack thereof. This reminds me of some pertinent random trivia. A male lion can ejaculate 200 times per day. He needs to becaue the female lion is only receptive 2-3 hours per month. He has to be ready!!! No doubt, Achebe is ready!!
btw: I think this thread is worth a true test of will power. If you received free tickets with Goldberg to go meet Ming in China then head to Japan and Korea to catch some World Cup and Sushi later, and your wife was not with you, and you didn't have to use your real name... would this Korean/Brazil fan have gotten the better of you?? <img src="http://www.carltonhousegifts.com/images/brazil.jpg"> Of course, feel free to take some time to masturbate before answering.
oh hell....lookit that! Tempting tho it is, I also have a lifestyle that I love too much to chance screwing it up...And she would find out, I'm a terrible liar and we know each other too well. I would feel horrible for doin it (nothing to do with how I see me, i love her too much to hurt her like that.) Besides, as I'm sure other fathers here can attest to, I would absolutely hate to only get to see my little girl on the weekends or every other weekend or some other awful arrangement like that. When i was single....well now..that was a different story...as others have mentioned...there is no shortage of opportunity for those who worked in the music business... Back then I cheated on my g/fs constantly...cause I didn't really care that much for em...being in love has been all the difference between me then and me now....
LOL. There's actually a paper by Baker and Bellis in which they argue that the reason masturbation is adaptive is b/c of sperm competition (or my fave title 'Sperm Wars'). They recall a time in which we all lived in promiscuous mating systems. The argument goes that your older sperm (>72 hrs) are less viable (don't swim as fast) and thus shedding sperm through masturbation renews your little buggers so you can impregnate that next female better so than your competitor. Interesting stuff... but I'm pretty sure both of them were invited out of their jobs. ROTFLMAO Great point Desert Scar... and the fact of the matter is, that stats show she does cheat. When I'm not so anxious to waste my time on Rashard Lewis info, I'll cite some interesting evidence that shows that tons of birds everyone 'knows' are monogamous are getting gametes from the sexiest males, not the males they paired with (ie females late to roost get slim pickings of their males but 'borrow' another female's mate). Theres some damn interesting information on all of the primates as well (but you can do 'so many things' with birds ).
I just wanted to point out... even though I'm arguing that males are bred to procure the most matings, that I too, of course, value the 'cultural clutter' that has taught us to honor our mates. I love my wife. I worship my wife. My wife is my peer... she's my best friend (and she's friggin' hot). I will never do anything to screw up my marriage. But I'm a male. And I recognize attractive females. Thank goodness for the cultural clutter that has taught me to value my frienship with my wife more so than the fleeting opportunity to **** the ever living **** out of the girl in that photo. Oh what were we talking about? (kidding, kidding)
Prior to my marriage I had my problems, but since being married and having my son I would not want to jeopardize what I have. They are too important to me than getting some cheap sex. Internet p*rn isn't cheating is it?
Definitely....I notice em all the time. But my wife isn't like some I know..u know? the ones that get pissy if the guy even looks like he's lookin in the in-general direction of a girl...my wife is sweet enuff to point out fine babes i may not have seen when we are in public... Sonny..I think that depends on how your wife sees it....my doesn't mind..Thank God!! I'd be in deep poo otherwise
...it's a moral test of yourself, whether or not you can maintain loyalty. Because when people are loyal to each other, that's very meaningful. So you're gonna go out there, drink your drink, say "Goodnight, I've had a very lovely evening," go home, and jack off. And that's all you're gonna do.
Another Brother, given the right circumstances people will do almost *anything.* I don't see Elizabeth Hurley, or Ewan Mcgregor (two randomly hot celebrities that came to mind) kidnapping anybody and forcing them to have sex, so there is a gulf between the imagined "right situation" and what even most guys will do that could jeapordize even the worst marriages. Sure, guys are dogs (Rikki Lake told me so), but affairs rarely just happen by themselves for the average person. I'm sure Will Smith can pull just by going to the grocery store, but most people have to actively seek out the booty. I mean, sure, taking an eightball and fistfull of $20 bills to the Men's Club doesn't automatically make you a cheater, but one shouldn't act like the lipstick on your, um, collar got there by happenstance. Most people (even the fellas) in marriages resist temptation by removing themselves from the temptation arena, in other words.
