No Deal Dodgers pull out after Carlos can't agree to trade

Lets all of a sudden sit carlos Lee cause he turned down the trade to LA, that doesn't strike you as petty? Look I'm not happy about the trade falling through, but lets not let emotion get in the way of business. Wallace should be brought up in within the next week (maybe right after the ASG) and split time @ 1B. If Wallace continues his hot streak that he's had since he got back to OKC, then Carlos sits a little more and maybe altogether. Hopefully seeing his playing time dwindle will make him ask for a trade (although its unlikely since playing time has no bearing on his check).

Only three more months and we'll be rid of the albatross that is Carlos Lee.

 

Welp, when they make it back home, it's time to boo his ass every time he comes to the plate.

 

Sucks that we lost out on the trade, but I think you still pencil Carlos in the line-up at least until the trade deadline to see if one of the teams on his list will make an offer. I doubt the offers will be as good though as we lost a lot of leverage.

 

who would want a player who doesnt want to compete for a championship? his career is over.

waive him and bring up wallace and singleton.

 

**** that, send him to low A ball and make him wash socks.

 

Nope. It should have been the team's plan all along. Give him to the all-star break to display he still has gas in the tank and see if he can be moved. If he can't - sit him, regardless of if it's his fault or the Astros' fault. At this point in the season there is aboslutely no reason why Wallace should not see the majority of the starts at first base the rest of the year.

If Wallace does not get the majority of the starts the rest of the season at first base the Astros, as an organization, are not doing their job.

 

Wallace needs those AB's. I really don't care what it looks like. Carlos is a swell guy, and the Astros gave him a life raft from having to ride the pine in the closing days of his career by offering up the trade to a legit contender. He didn't want it. That's fine; it's his right.

But the Astros have a longer view. And Wallace deserves a shot now, particularly after what he showed you already. I don't think that's being petty...I think it's just waking up to where you are.

 

Trade could easily be back on later if Carlos changes his mind. If he doesn't end up getting moved for a decent prospect, I'll be mad at him.

He's lucky the team is on a road trip.

 

We are still trying to market Carlos. We can't forget that. Either getting him to eventually waive the NTC, or by moving him to a team not on his list (Possibly Cleveland).

 

That is true, but teams know what he is at this point in his career. He is a reasonably good first baseman. He is a good contact hitter who no longer displays the power he has shown in the past (and hasn't for a couple of years now). He appears to be a good teammate. Continuing to play him every day won't change any of that.

 

Not going to change their opinions, but will help to keep him in the groove so to speak. People usually don't want a guy that has been sitting on the bench for a month.

After July 31st? Waive him and hope someone claims him. I don't play him again at that point. After August 31st, I'd DFA him.

 

If he was in a groove, I'd agree. But he had a 0.660 OPS in June - maybe sitting on the bench would be helpful!

 

He doesn't have to sit on the bench the entire time. In any 10 game period, give Wallace 6 starts at first and 2-3 at third.

 

I'd certainly be cool with sitting him regularly.

If the team wanted to be cruel, they'd just leave Lee on the road.

Edit: I mean sitting him 1-2 games in every series.

 

Does anybody know why he even put L.A. on his list??? I mean I love Texas as much as anyone but I can't figure out why, of all the teams in the league, you wouldn't want to go to the Dodgers. Does he have something against beautiful scenery, great weather, or artificially-enhanced women? He has a chance to play for a historic baseball franchise who is actually competitive this year.

I'd understand his uncertainty to leave if he still had 2yrs or so left on his contract because he'd actually be relocating. But for 3 MONTHS??? That's like an extended vacation for a millionaire!! I dunno, maybe he has every intention of accepting a trade but just wants to make sure it's a team he thinks is really going to make a strong run in the playoffs. Does anyone know his actual list of NTC teams?

 

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Luckily, the FO aren't senseless, petty fans.

Besides the aforementioned immaturity of it all, if they were to "punish" him for not waiving his NTC it would send a signal throughout the league to players that the Houston FO doesn't honor contracts and plays underhanded when things don't go their way.

That being said, any player worth their salt would have jumped at the chance to leave a situation like his and go play for a legitimate contender (Kemp is coming back and LA is still a playoff threat) but we all know "The Horse" just wants to toot around his ranch.

We still need to showcase the guy and hope he accepts a deal or (more likely) gets moved to a team not on his NTC list. We'll have to eat salary and basically buy a young low/mid level prospect whereas LA was shockingly going to move us a young arm almost straight up...but that's business.

 

His list is full of contenders that he would most likely be traded to b/c he doesn't want to be traded at all.

Sucks, but it seems like the guy just wants to be close to his damn ranch and doesn't care about winning a thing as a ML baseball player.

 

Again, what purpose does it serve the future of the Houston franchise to allow Lee to continue playing every day? What unknown abilities does he have which haven't been displayed in the past 2.5 years will be uncovered if he continues to play most every day this month?

Since Lee is a free agent after this year AND this year is half over, his salary for the rest of the year is essentially moot.

Wallace needs major league evaluation.

 

Might have something to do with the dysfunction that was the Dodgers for the McCourt years. Doesn't he give the team a list before each season? The ownership situation wasn't dealt with there until just before the season started.

 

The more I think about it the more I think the Astros should go ahead and bring up Wallace no matter the situation. There's no way that the future of the team should be handcuffed because of player's 'preferences'. Trade Lee or not, it shouldn't matter anymore because Wallace should be brought up and play everyday at either 1B or 3B. Neither CJ or CLee are warranting being able to play everday and neither are part of the future.

It rubs me the wrong way that a player can rightfully act like a free agent in the middle of a season deciding where they'd like to go. I have nothing against Lee so I don't care if he's here or not for the rest of the season but don't delay the organizational development because of him. We have to know what we have in this hopefully "new" Brett Wallace because Singleton will be playing first everyday sometime next year and Lowrie could possibly end up at 3B. ONWARD HO!!!!