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Nnamdi a perfect fit in Houston

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by rmoreno, May 17, 2011.

  1. Bandwagoner

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    Anyone who has been paying attention already knows the Texans don't give a crap about winning when compared to making money.
     
  2. conquistador#11

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    So in a pass happy league, a stud cb is crucial to the success of a defense?

    Nahh, let's start some more inexperienced guys back there! what's the worst thing that could happen....


    We'll see what mcnair is all about. Either he hands out the money to Wade so he can shop for groceries along with some kit kat bars; or Mcnair just sits back awaiting the the owner's seminar, where they all tell mcnair how awesome he is.
    I have faith they will give Wade a heavy allowance to spend.
     
  3. SWTsig

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    god i hate this franchise.
     
  4. Bandwagoner

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    We already found out. See Aaron Schobel.
     
  5. ima_drummer2k

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    Any other position besides CB and I'd share your apprehension. But you've said it before yourself -- CB is the 2nd most difficult position to learn behind QB. Why not shell out the cash for such an important position similarly to the way you would for a star QB?

    Like others have mentioned, I'd much rather have a superstar at such an important position than a bunch of average players spread all around. In this case, I'd go with quality over quantity.

    Of course, this is all a moot point, since there is basically a 100% chance that the Texans don't even make him an offer.
     
  6. DonkeyMagic

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    does he play CB? In hingsight, this wouldnt have done crap for the Texans.

    I understand the bitterness, but again, the whole argument that McNair doesnt care about winning and only wants to save money is just sour grapes by sour fans looking at anything to complain about.

    It's comporable to people b****ing about the astros being cheap, whilst having one of the higher payrolls in baseball.
     
  7. javal_lon

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    Nah thats completely different...At least the Stros' show progress in trade discussions....Texans "seem" to not even make contact with the players mentioned in reports..... You never really hear FA's say they've recieved interest from us.... Its hard to get excited or be optimistic about the Texan's offseason because of past FA period where we stood pat...If thats whining, then I'm just gettin started!!!!
     
  8. SWTsig

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    honestly, i dont think he does, and keeping kubes around for a 6th year is a testament to that. he's more concerned w projected a good, wholesome image and surrounding himself with good ol' boys then he is about winning.
     
  9. DonkeyMagic

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    i'm sorry, i just think it's near impossible to imagine him at home thinking "i don't care about winning"....What you could say is that he thinks "i want to win with a class organization"...that I can buy.

    But to say he doesn't care about winning and only about money is just ridiculous.
     
  10. Hey Now!

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    I started to write a big, "Champ is old; Asomugha is in his prime" response.... but Nnamdi is actually 30 this summer... Which isn't a huge concern, especially if the NFL's new labor deal retains non-guanrateed contracts. But you do need to be a little more cautious about it, IMO. Especially if we're talking about QB-like money.

    But to answer your question - Asomugha is an elite CB hitting the open market: I doubt he has designs on settling for less than his previous contract, regardless of how outrageous it was.
     
  11. Hey Now!

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    Let's not confuse one of the NFL's best CBs who would fill an abolute giant hole on this team with a retired, reportedly out-of-shape DE who they expected to use on a pretty limited basis.

    It amazes me how invested some people get in otherwsie meaningless events. Aaron Schobel would not have made a lick of difference last year. And he wanted to apparently be paid like an every-down end who still wreaked havoc. I can understand disappointment they didn't sign him to a degree - but come on. It was not some franchise-changing, terrible decision, nor is it a fair indicator of how the team might approach Asomugha.
     
  12. DonnyMost

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    The Texans' contract negotiations should go like this, "Nnamdi, bring us your highest offer, and we'll top it by 10%."

    It's been 9 years, this offense has maybe 3-4 years left of prime performance from Schaub (29), Andre (29), Foster (RB lifespan :( ), and Daniels (28)... along with some of the OL.

    Winning time is now.

    Who cares if 4 years from now we're stuck with Nnamdi's huge contract that pays him far more than he's worth at that point. It will be time to start rebuilding anyway. If we're going to mortgage the future on anybody, it should be a guy like Asomugha. He's a model citizen and one of the best to ever put on a uniform.

    Pay the man.
     
  13. justtxyank

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    The assasination of Schobel by the administration supporters is crazy.

    The year he retired Schobel had 10 sacks and 56 tackles (2009). That's more than Mario had last year or in 2009 in both tackles and sacks. Yeah, he wouldn't have been able to help at all!
     
  14. DonnyMost

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    Just one of the many instances where the McNair/Kubiak water-carrying brigade has jumped into action.

    Luckily, Mark Anderson actually produced for us... otherwise, that would've been an epic fail.
     
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    Sigh. Is the season here yet? It's a viscous cycle around here with the same old debates about the Texans.

    I'm actually with Ric on this one. Schobel was out of shape by all accounts. He didn't want to do training camp. If he was really motivated to play, he would have played SOMEWHERE last year; but the fact that he didn't tells me that he was just after one last paycheck and didn't care much about playing. After Barwin went down, it likely would have taken him at least 3 weeks to get in shape and up to speed. Yet he wanted to be paid premium and at full season rate for being a 3rd down pass rush specialist.
     
  16. Hey Now!

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    "I’m not in the best of shape." Care to guess which of the assassins said that? Oh, and here's another card-carrying member of the administration.

    I mean, I get that his not signing created an opportunity for fans to fill in their own blanks - but the guy had retired, was admittedly out of shape, and was reportedly demanding starter's money despite the fact he would likely not be starting. You can certainly criticize the Texans for not signing him since the defense obviously needed some help - but let's not pretend the Texans didn't have a decent case for not signing him. And, in hindsight, he would not have a difference. The Texans actually had a relatively decent pass rush last year.
     
  17. Fyreball

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    Nnamdi would immediately become 1b (with Andre being 1a) on the list of greatest players to ever put on a Texans uniform, so to me, I think that it's a no-brainer to throw the vault at him. Like Donny said, if he wants $18mm, you give him $20mm, and tell him you'll see him at camp. To me, if you get Aso, you're not just getting the best corner in the game.....you're getting one of the best FOOTBALL players. With Wade at the helm, I can see him bringing Aso in on runs, and even blitzing the QB every now and then. He automatically gives this defense the swagger they've been lacking, and that's worth any amount of money he wants. This regime is on their last leg, and they need a major splash to put them back on the right track to the Super Bowl. If anything, they should consider themselves LUCKY that a player of Asomugha's caliber is actually available to them, and do whatever it takes to get him.
     
  18. moestavern19

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    Last time I checked a lot of teams still run the ball half the time.
     
  19. moestavern19

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    http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2011/05/17/asomugha-not-interested-in-texans/#more-16073


    McDonald is a source I trust. He obviously doesn't know Justice like we do, but I bolded the part that pretty much sums it up.
     
  20. ima_drummer2k

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    This is so true and I've been saying this all offseason long. Not because of Kubiak's thin ice status. Not because of the fans being impatient. But because of the fact that our core of good players is starting to show signs of wear and tear.

    AJ = 29 and coming off injury
    OD = 28 and coming off season-ending injury last year
    DeMeco = 27 and coming off season-ending injury
    Mario = 26 and played entire season injured last year

    Don't look now, but we are no longer this up-and-coming young team full of potential like ESPN says we are every year.

    The way you build a franchise is to build your core through the draft. Then, when you start to get close, you start throwing money at the big FA's to put you over the top.

    Well, according to McNair's own words, we ARE close. Remember, he told us that after all the other owners told him after that Ravens game.

    Our window is closing. It's time to make a big move and win NOW. No more talk about potential or the future.

    But again....it's not going to happen, so really all this talk is just a fun way to pass the time during the boring workday.
     

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