I'm not going to hate a team just because they beat us. The Cardinals haven't given me a real reason to hate them, unlike the Cubs with the whole Barrett/Oswalt thing and their terrible bandwagoning fans. On the other hand, Beltran is the Bud Adams of baseball. F him
It's interesting this team makes it to the WS while last year's team did not. Reminds me of Al McGuire's Marquette team that won it all 30+ years ago. It definitely was NOT his best squad. That's why you play the games. Both the Cards and Tigers "backed into" the playoffs with horrible finishes. Some thought the Tigers were doomed against the Yankees, seeing as they could have avoided them in the first round if they hadn't choked like dogs against the Royals. If the Cards win, what an improbable story. Going from a what would have been a historic collapse to winning the WS. If the Tigers win, what an improbable story. From losing 119 games three years ago to winning the WS. I like both teams. If forced to chose, let it be the Tigers. The main thing is the Yanks/Bosox/Mets are out of the picture. For me, that means this WS is all good.
The Astros had holes last year in their lineup, yes....but post all-star break all the way to the last game of the World Series they played like champions; they had one of the best top-3 rotations if not the best in the league, one of the best bullpens, and their offense definitely stepped it up down the stretch. And they beat a much better Cardinals team than you see here. The Cardinals beat a depleted Mets team whose bats went silent at the wrong time. You could maybe equate this to the Sox run last year...but the big difference there is again, the Sox were a much more complete team...played solid all season, did slump toward the end but turned it around, caught fire and rode it all the way to a title. The Cards have hardly caught fire, they're just scraping by.
This is different then the Rockets vs. Jazz, nobody had any respect for the Jazz, they beat us by playing dirty and cheating with 2 of the dirtiest players ever. The Cards beat us in 04, because Andy Pettitte was injured, and Garner decided to put all the eggs in Roger Clemens basket saving him for gm 7, instead of going with Clemens AND Oswalt on 3 days rest. We handled them in 05 to win the pennant. This yr, we couldn't take care of Atlanta, or the Stros would be boarding a flight to Detroit tommorow morning. Next yr, I think the Stros will come back bigger, badder and stronger and return to the World Series
Uhh... I know... that's why I compared it to Rockets-Spurs. In fact, the Cards are even more like the Spurs when you compare the way they lucked into Albert Pujols, just like the Spurs lucked into Tim Duncan.
The Spurs didn't luck into Tim Duncan they tanked. Then Popovich fires the coach and takes over the team and is given the title great coach by many. Yeah right.
I would stand by that comparison. And yet, I wouldn't want either team winning a champsionship (if they did it wouldn't hurt me as much as other teams though) because it would mean they (a division rival...and in the case of the Spurs an in-state rival) would have one more than we do.
He chocked pretty good. His 1st and last pitches were very hittable and he is just standing there frozen. No love lost there. But go Tigers!!!
It was a dream come true. I also would've been content if it was Wagner that lost the game. Oh well, you can't have it all. I hope we get an interesting world series.
I know the Cards are our nemesis, and I should root against them, but really, for me, watching any New York team lose in such grand fashion is practically orgasmic. 1) NY fans are the most arrogant and deluded fans on the planet. 2) Any time the East (Coast) Sports Programming Network is forced to deal with a lack of NE teams in a major sporting event, it's a win in my book. Sure, ESPN will be slobbering all over Pujols (the only bankable star left for the network to hype to ridiculous levels, a la Reggie Bush), but hey, better him than Beltrash. I'd also like to point out that when you combine the team payrolls of both the Cards and the Tigers, the total is $23M less than the Yankees payroll. Heck, add in the Florida Marlins, and the Yankees are still ahead by $8M. Disgusting.
Just curious, is anybody giving the Cardinals a chance in this World Series? I'm not. In fact, if the Tigers don't sweep (let alone allow a run to score), then they might as well give the trophy to St. Louis. No but seriously, St. Louis has no shot.
Dude...sports is clearly as much about the guy who screws up than the guy who does well. Why do you think so many people watch golf on Sunday? Tiger, sure, but every other tournament there's someone blowing a lead, often massively. In this case someone was definitely going to win - nothing we could do about it, it was Mets vs. Cards the whole series. At a minimum, we got to see a person Astros fans should hate screw up. YAYAYAYAYAYAYA!
The painful sweep the Tigers will put on St. Louis this year will make the 2005 White Sox sweep of the Astros look like Little League. I'm predicting that the winning margin for each of the four games will be three runs....or more. And I will love every minute of it!!
