NJ Record about EG: Nets' deal looks better than ever

He's had enough time. Even before this latest f-ck up. He's done nothing but regress on and off the court. We're trying to win games here.

 

best post i've read from you. spot on. new jesey is ful of loser homers (just kidding). i live in brooklyn- there are more homers here than anywhere.

 

In all fairness, the article doesn't say Houston is really dumb, it just gloat NJ is really smart. It doesn't say EG will never pan out either, it just says they were smart enough to realize EG has enough character issues that they did the trade to best address the teams needs at THAT time span.

Now bash on.

 

The Rockets got killed in that deal.

You could even have had Zach Randolph, Gilbert Arenas, Tony Parker instead of Collins and Armstrong.

 

None of those players impress me.

 

Do you even watch basketball.

 

Yeah and the two most overrated are players on that list are products of the system.

 

Zach Randolph and Gilbert Arenas are 2 future all stars.

Tony Parker has incredible quickness. If he becomes more consistent, he will be an all-star too.

The Rockets would trade Griffin for any of those 3 players.

Other than the elite superstars, every player is a product of thier system.

 

Hay dood, Antoine Walker is an all star.
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He is one of the fastest players in the NBA but Tim Duncan's presence has increased his ability.

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Why? We have a point guard.

It alwasy happens every year. So and so is going to be an all star. So and so is going to take his team to the championship. I've seen Grant Hill shoved down my throat for three years and how everyone tells me how great he was and how he is going to be better than Jordan.

Out of all the players named I feel sorry for Gilbert Arenas the most. He's going to DC and have to play ball with Jerry Stackhouse and Kwame Brown.

 

We could have had this, we could have had that...it's all relative.

That's why it's a draft and you are drafting players based on what you saw in college or on potential you see. You don't know how they are going to react in the NBA, are they going to break out and fit in a system like Jefferson did in NJ, he is benifiting from having kidd there running the show. Just cause a player is great in college does not mean he will live up to it in the NBA cuase he has to mesh with the style of the team. You can never predict how players are going to be most of the time. Rarely are you going to have someone that plays great coming out of college.

I mean look at Amare, how many people are saying damn i wish i hadn't let him slip in the draft, but at that point they weren't thinking that....you take chances in life like the Rockets did and either you win or loose on them....looking back on something like the draft is stupid.

 

1. Antoine Walker is also better than Griffin. Walker has talent. He's just undisciplined and tries to do too much. Griffin has no talent. There's a difference.

2. You can never have too much talent on a team. When we drafted Sam Casell, we already had a PG too.

With either Parker or Arenas, our rotation would be

Arenas/Parker, Francis and Mobley.
Compare that with Francis, Mobley and Moochie.

If you cant see the obvious upgrade, there's nothing else to say.

3. Grant Hill was a great player. You can't predict injuries.

Pippen was voted one of the 50 greatest players. On the Rockets, he sucked because his game was not standing at the 3 point line jacking up 3's. Was he not a legitimate allstar? Was he not a product of the system in Chicago?

The 2 are not mutually exclusive.

 

Great players need to take their team out of the first round of the playoffs.

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Pippen was voted one of the 50 greatest players. On the Rockets, he sucked because his game was not standing at the 3 point line jacking up 3's. Was he not a legitimate allstar? Was he not a product of the system in Chicago?

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The asterik season means nothing too me. Dream, Barkley and Pippen were hurt most of the year and the only thing notable that Pippen did that year was get a DWI. His relationship with Barkley didn't help matters either.

 

Point taken. But Moochie isn't a bad point guard when told not to dribble the shotclock away.

Great players need to take their team out of the first round of the playoffs.

The asterik season means nothing too me. Dream, Barkley and Pippen were hurt most of the year and the only thing notable that Pippen did that year was get a DWI. His relationship with Barkley didn't help matters either.

 

Jesus wtf.

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Bring back the edit button.

 

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1. Typical ignorant response. Griffin has no talent. Walker has moves, can score, and rebound. He relies too much on the 3 pointer and forces up too many bad shots. That is typical of offensive players when they find a comfort zone they shouldn't be in.

Griffin cant do anything other than block shots.
Walker would start on this team right now.

2. Moochie isn't a bad point guard? That is stupid. All he can do is dribble.

If you took that away from him, he can't do anything. He's a terrible shooter, plays 0 defense, cant rebound, make 3's and isn't a good finisher. He is a terrible free throw shooter and is a mediocre passer.

If he didn't have a big contract, he wouldnt be on this team at all.

3. I have no idea what you're talking about. I was talking about Pippen and systems. He was awesome in Chicago's triangle offense and sucked here. Why? Because our system didn't allow him to freelance and move without the ball. He was forced to stand at the 3 point line while our 2 big men spent 20 seconds backing it in.

You talk about players being good in systems. Guess what, that applies to almost every player in the NBA.

 

1. Yeah, Walker as our starting PF. More ill advised jacked up shots, locker room cancer and absolutely no defense. I'll take Eddie's shot blcoking over that idiot anyday.

2. Where were you when Moochie was having good games and playing as an adequate point guard? He's not a starting PG by any means and has a blown up contract but he's doable as a back up.

3. Rudy didn't play too his strengths than.

 

Sweet Deal if you put it this way. Yao Ming vs. 3 1st rounder.

 

From whoever:

The arguement about Griffin was never about what we have or get now. So I have no idea what you're right about.

Not to mention the fact that argueably the 5-9 seeds in the West could have won the Eastern Conference last year. Bragging rights? Well maybe they had them when the Nets were in the ABA.

 

any rockets fans going to email this guy who wrote the article and point out his statistical mistakes???

 

Hey, how about great players need to take their team into the playoffs..........in four years.