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Nikki Haley for President

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Feb 1, 2023.

  1. JuanValdez

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    Yeah, our complicity hasn't gone unnoticed. But we could dissociate from Israel if we wanted to, and we'd eventually disappear from the chants. They hate America because we support Israel.

    My father was supposed to be on the Liberty that day, but it hadn't come in to port to change crew.
     
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  2. AroundTheWorld

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    "Complicity" is what Iran, Turkey and Qatar have with Hamas.

    Defending freedom and Western values is not "complicity".

    Check yourself.
     
  3. NewRoxFan

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    I get the feeling there are times she wants to break clean of trump and then says this....................if you can't say that executing your top military general is more than "irresponsible" I think you're talking out both sides of your mouth, I wish she would have given a deep throated "That is F`d up and for a President to say that is WRONG"................for what it's worth, trump can say it, it's his First Amendment right to say it but dam, have some balls and call him out

    Christie is the only one who will get down and fight fire with fire, the rest are to afraid to lose the base
     
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  5. rocketsjudoka

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    Haley is trying to thread the needle as not being for Trump but not being critical of Trump that she gets called a RINO.
     
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  6. Xerobull

    Xerobull You son of a b!tch! I'm in!
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    Sounds like a p*rn name. Every time I see it. p*rn.

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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  7. basso

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    2024 aint going to be pretty. Blue Tsunami unless the Rs can distract or the Ds implode. 50/50.

     
  10. basso

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    embed fail.
     
  13. FranchiseBlade

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    So if there is a bank robber who grabs a hostage and is holding the civilian hostage in front of themselves with a gun to their head, I think it is okay to criticize the police if they open fire with a full automatic weapon in the direction of the bank robber. Criticizing the law enforcement tactics doesn't mean you are okay with the bank robbers and hostage takers.
     
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    Wouldn't it be great if it was that simple- the example
     
  15. basso

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    she's not talking about bank robbers.
     
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    correct
     
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    What would be great is if people that are against Hamas and also against innocent Palestinian civilians dying aren't accused of supporting the terrorists.
     
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  18. ROXRAN

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    That would be great, but it depends if you think Hamas should continue to exist -

    “A destroyed Hamas also results in less incentive for Israel to make the compromises it will have to make”. - FranchiseBlade post #625 in Israel attacks Hamas thread

    @AroundTheWorld - @basso Sure sounds like someone arguing that Hamas SHOULD exist and is far from “against” Hamas
     
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  19. FranchiseBlade

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    That is different than believing Hamas should exist. I listed specific steps I would like to see to get rid of Hamas completely.

    The comment was about Israel taking those steps, which would result in getting rid of Hamas but also Israel taking steps to ensure they have a more secure nation going forward.

    Israel likely will never take those steps. The actions by Israel currently won't likely end Hamas. The whole goal I was talking about was ending Hamas AND providing Israel more security going forward, as well as providing a better future for the Palestinian people going forward.

    Taking only part of the messages from me and using it out of context is BS.
     
  20. LosPollosHermanos

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    She can’t pick a side and furthermore, illustrate that she’s convinced on that side. She’s out of her depth and comes across as a clown.
    Vivek, trump heck even desantis are better choices.

    hate to say it, as much of a failure sleepy joe is Haley might be worse
     

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