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NIE Report: Iraq Was No Threat At All...and More.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by MacBeth, Jul 22, 2003.

  1. MacBeth

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  2. KingCheetah

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    It took you six months to come up with this muddled rehash of events proven to be false or complete nonsense? Aluminum tubes? Reconstituted weapons programs? Nigerian Uranium? Sad.
    Then you imply that anyone who doesn’t believe in these lies is insane. Nice.


    Oh here you go...

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  3. basso

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    Macbeth, i ran across an article by a hero of yours, scott ritter, in the new republic, 1998. in it he says:

    "Even today, Iraq is not nearly disarmed. UNSCOM lacks a full declaration from Iraq concerning its prohibited capabilities, making any absolute pronouncement about the extent of Iraq's retained proscribed arsenal inherently tentative. But, based on highly credible intelligence, UNSCOM suspects that Iraq still has biological agents like anthrax, botulinum toxin, and clostridium perfringens in sufficient quantity to fill several dozen bombs and ballistic missile warheads, as well as the means to continue manufacturing these deadly agents. Iraq probably retains several tons of the highly toxic VX substance, as well as sarin nerve gas and mustard gas. This agent is stored in artillery shells, bombs, and ballistic missile warheads. And Iraq retains significant dual-use industrial infrastructure that can be used to rapidly reconstitute large-scale chemical weapons production. Meanwhile, Iraq has kept its entire nuclear weapons infrastructure intact through dual-use companies that allow the nuclear-design teams to conduct vital research and practical work on related technologies and materials."

    no doubt the intelligence on Iraq’s WMDs was inadequate and severely flawed. but your anti-war campaign actually undermines your own argument. If we had no idea between 1998 and 2003 what was really happening in Iraq – and we plainly didn’t – then the only prudent assumption with a demonstrably irrational aggressor is to give him absolutely no benefit of the doubt.
     
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    There was a time when Ritter was correct. Later that changed and so did Ritter's statements.
     
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    The Bushies made a sanitized version of the NIE report. This was presented as evidence way back when. The original NIE report is what was released recently. If this is not cooking the books, then there is no such thing as cooking the books.

    http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/7914490.htm

    Posted on Mon, Feb. 09, 2004

    Doubts, dissent stripped from public version of Iraq assessment

    By Jonathan S. Landay

    Knight Ridder Newspapers

    WASHINGTON - The public version of the U.S. intelligence community's key prewar assessment of Iraq's illicit arms programs was stripped of dissenting opinions, warnings of insufficient information and doubts about deposed dictator Saddam Hussein's intentions, a review of the document and its once-classified version shows.

    As a result, the public was given a far more definitive assessment of Iraq's plans and capabilities than President Bush and other U.S. decision-makers received from their intelligence agencies.

    The stark differences between the public version and the then top-secret version of the October 2002 National Intelligence Estimate raise new questions about the accuracy of the public case made for a war that's claimed the lives of more than 500 U.S. service members and thousands of Iraqis.


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