WTF?!...Skip Bayless actually COMPLETELY on our side on this. I didn’t think Green fouled after Harden’s slight emblishment. However, I think he would have been on Harden’s landing spot if Harden didn’t stop him from getting there with his legs.
For anyone that says it's Harden's fault for jumping forward while shooting has either never shot a basketball or is biased. Just watch this years NBA 3Point Contest. Oh gee, looks like even when no one is guarding them, they are still moving forward after shooting.
That's the only non-call I agree was borderline and didn't need to be whistled. But the refs still blew that possession by not calling a foul on either Thompson when he collided with CP3 after the offensive rebound or Curry when he bumped EG out of bounds going for the loose ball. Either one of those whistles would've allowed the Rockets to pull with a point with 5 seconds left and a timeout remaining.
We'll find out Tuesday. but I think it'll change. It's great that there is so much talk about the fouls on the 3 point shooters. Now, I know our guys were flopping on a couple of those, but for the referee teams, they can't escape the lesson here that jumping into the shooter's landing zone is dangerous and a foul. I think it'll end up being a point of emphasis for them in Game 2. It might fade again as the series goes on, but there should be at least a temporary effect that refs will be calling those fouls. Which is great for us because we take a lot of those shots.
Honestly, after what we've seen these last two years, it's becoming clear as day that the Warriors are a dirty cheating team, and that Kerr gives them the instructions to do so, and ohhh the league is also rigged
Listen...I totally agree. I'm just saying we've watched the Warriors get a favorable whistle for, what...6 seasons now? This is nothing new. Nothing is going to change.
No it absolutely does not justify biased officiating and it’s not right to having to adjust. However, you have to play to win no matter what situation or circumstance that a ref, coach, or players put you in....the game must be won and in order to do so, you have to play and adjust (to a certain extent). After the game, give them hell win or lose at the press conference and media. **** backing down or worrying about fines. However, you have to prepare for the next game and focus on winning that one also, so let the management and Rockets do the due diligence against the refs and NBA.
I understand some of the bias against Harden because they think he exaggerates, but looking at different kind of shooters , you get two things imho 1_ you always move forward after a shot 2_ this action is different from a player to another, some land way forward, some land a little . But in all cases, knowing the rule: IT'S ALWAYS A FOUL TO UNDERCUT, and of course it's dangerous
Because momentum carries the offensive player forward or backwards depending on the initial exertion and also shooting mechanics. Durant and Curry play a similar way where they kick out and land forward. Durant kicked his leg and knee into Paul on his baseline fade-away, where is the offensive foul, Draymond Donkey Green?
Overall you may be right. I don't think the Rockets are gonna get more whistles than the Warriors. Maybe they will in Games 2 and 3. But not for the entire series. I just think this particular issue of Golden State defenders undercutting Rockets shooters will be singled out going forward. But I agree that in other areas, the refs will find ways to screw the Rockets(and anyone else the Warriors play). The moving screens that aren't called. Green roughing up players as they drive to the hoop. Ticky tack stuff to get the Warriors into the bonus quickly. It happened all throughout the Clippers series. It'll happen in this one as well.
Rockets just want a fair shake. Call the right calls and don’t ignore the fouls. We missed out on at least 20 plus free throws yesterday. That would have meant a comfortable win
Adam Silver is not a commissioner, he is a "booker." And right now GS is pushed and protected like 80s era Hulk Hogan. I'm just dumbfounded that this is all happening again, I shouldn't be surprised, but I guess I'm still naive and believe the NBA is fair. But it is overwhelming obvious it is not. If the league is not honest than what is the point of following? After Games 6 and 7 last year I was so jaded by the crookedness I couldn't really bring myself to get emotionally invested in this season because what's the point, right? Which is a shame because I only half paid attention to Harden's nuclear season, but again with the crowing of Giannis three months ago, what's the point?
Skip is a Spurs fan and he definitely remembers the Warriors doing this to Kawhi, so that's probably why he's on our side for this.
Yeah, Skip really hates the Warriors for that. He still references "Zaza Pa-cheap shot" every once in a while. If you think about it, that one play altered the course of the entire Spurs organization. Maybe San Antonio doesn't win that series, but it likely would've gone 6 or 7. And maybe Kawhi doesn't have a falling out last season with Pop and wind up forcing his way out of town. It's why the refs have to get this under control going forward. If Harden gets injured as a result of these plays, it'll turn a bad situation for the NBA into toxic one.
They ran PnR way before the one-on-one ball. Look at all 3 Klay's no-call fouls, it was all one-on-one play. PnR drive, stop and pop will be difficult for defenders to undercut because they will most likely end up on the side of Harden or behind Harden. Possibility of getting blocked but if Harden uses his sidestep mid-jumpers it will be almost impossible for tall defenders to be quick enough to even attempt a block. Harden's midrange is pretty solid but the sad part is that it's not being used.
Yup. People hate Harden for "being a flopper" but these sorts of plays can cause really significant injury and are supposed to be flagrants but the refs are looking the other way because, as that guy said during the game, "maybe they think he's trying to fool them", which is such a giveaway that the Rockets are being reffed with a different standard than everyone else. How do you fool someone being under your feet on a vertical jumpshot? You either roll with the contact to the floor or risk spraining something.