NFL will fine players and personnel who don't stand for national anthem

You just keep looking at it with those blinders on.

 

LOL, irony. I point out what is said and what is done and why it is said and done, you say "nuh uh" then accuse me of wearing "blinders"? That's classic.

 

None of the networks show the anthem. News outlets show the kneeling after the fact

 

That's not really true, there were plenty of times that they showed the kneelers during games last year, in fact I think they always did on NBC if they had any. They didn't show the anthem live, but they decided to show clips of it during the broadcast for whatever reason.

 

The NFL should be more concerned with their terrible refs.

 

The only legit defense of Kaeperick would have to be based on that he meant to disrespect the flag. Those were the man’s words. His supporters would have to justify this movement disrespecting the country. Many of them aren’t willing to do that so they have to pretend like Kaepernick never gave that disgusting explanation.

The whole movement is based on a bunch of lies strung together. Throw in the willful ignorance of supporters of the movement and you have the mess before us.

 

LOL, trump trying anything to distract...

Trump urges supporters to sign petition against 'spineless' ESPN to show national anthem during 'MNF'

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-espn-to-show-national-anthem-during-mnf.html

 

Where can I read his explanation that you are referencing?

 

Go read Edward C's post on the previous page. It's there.

 

I think it's illegal in North Korea to "disrespect thr country". Nk does patriotism right.

Anyone offended by this is a joke at this point hiding behind "MAH troops!" .

 

You are referring to this?

“I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color.”

Do you find it disgusting because you take exception to his description that the country is “oppressive” towards minorities, or because you take exception to his unwillingness to show pride in the US flag, whatever warts may exist for the country and institutions and culture it symbolizes?

In any case, his personal views and the negative feelings he may feel towards patriotic displays are not necessarily indicative of the views of other NFL players who choose to “take a knee” during the anthem.

 

That's him explaining that he intended his "protest" as a public display of a lack of pride in a flag and the country it represents, another way of saying to show disrespect. The fact that his "protest" is also baseless is irrelevant to the fact that it was 100% intended to show disrespect, so those who claim otherwise are simply incorrect and no amount of mental gymnastics will change that.

 

These are the same people who claim liberals stretch things to find racism in statements and actions by politicians. Amazing how they now try and twist this statement to fit the narrative they wish was true instead of what is actually true.

 

There's no twisting the statement. He made his intentions clear....it's just that it didn't go over well so they've spun it since then and you are desperately clinging to the spin and in order to do that you have to ignore his words on the subject.

 

When was the last time Kaepernick knelt during the anthem?

Are you saying that every other player that kneels is doing so for the exact same reason Kaepernick did? Can't they have their own reasons?

 

He's been out of the league for a while, but there was copycat kneeling even then. People can have their own reasons for doing something disrespectful, but it doesn't change that it's an act of disrespect. Those who want to defend it should attempt to justify the disrespect instead of doing mental gymnastics to make it seem like it's not what it obviously is.

 

Do you respect the flag and anthem by standing every single time you hear it? Or do you also show disrespect by sitting while watching on TV? Or is that not disrespectful because you don't have an ulterior motive?

 

If I'm at a place doing the national anthem, I always stand because that's the right thing to do.....I mean, after all they do say "Please rise for the singing of the national anthem". Now if someone can't stand, or didn't hear it, that's one thing, but if you hear it, you know it's going on, and you know what you are supposed to do but you simply refuse to, that's disrespectful. I mean, this isn't complicated. It's no different than if a place is having a moment of silence for some dead person or whatever and you decide to keep talking anyway. Do you have a right to do those disrespectful things? Sure, but people will probably think you are a disrespectful POS if they see it. Just how it is.

 

Other folks aren't the ones spinning his statement.

 

I don't disrespect the country during a ceremony to honor it because I take exception to anything. All those kneeling players are disrespecting the country as well. There are plenty of other times during a given day they can choose to protest other than during a ceremony to honor the country.