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[NFL] The timeout before the field goal

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by macalu, Sep 20, 2010.

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Should a timeout be allowed to ice the kicker?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. da_juice

    da_juice Member

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    Why? I don't see what's wrong with icing the kicker.
     
  2. Mr. Brightside

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    I don't know about you, but we play to win the game.
     
  3. DCkid

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    Seriously? I totally agree with you that there is not a a good clean way to prevent this. But I think it's pretty easy to see why people don't like it. I actually find it harder to understand why people would be "for this" new practice since it started just three years ago. Do you think it has improved the game?
     
  4. TheDreams

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    I don't think it has improved or made game worst. Although I do understand people not liking this practice. But I find it ridiculous that some people have suggested there should be a rule preventing a time out during a FG.
     
  5. rockets934life

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    I came back to say, that in the end, I agreed that it's football so whatever. It just gets fustrating for me but nothing worth messing with.
     
  6. macalu

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    it doesn't improve the game, nor does it make it worse. it's within the rules. it's a pre-snap timeout. you can't change when you're allowed to call one simply because of the formation. you might as well not allow it prior to a punt too.

    i guess i should rephrase it. i understand why people don't like it, but still don't understand why some think it should be changed.
     
  7. Geaux Rockets

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    Simple solution to this is to only implement this rule when the team is in a kicking formation. The NFL rule book already has a set of rules specifically regarding kick formation situations, just add it in under that. As soon as the offense shifts into something other than a field goal formation the coach can call a timeout again.
     
  8. Geaux Rockets

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    Haha, I can agree with this, because honestly I just want it changed because I don't like it at all. Takes away the drama from the kick and just makes the ends of games confusing. But I won't lose any sleep over until someone does it to "steal" a game from the Saints. Then Ill scream about it very irrationally.
     
  9. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    I wonder what the Skins fans think of it these days?

    ;)

    DD
     
  10. TheDreams

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    I think that would be terrible to do. What if the defense spots something indicating that the offense may be attempting a fake FG but can't call a timeout. The rules favor the offense enough already as it is, there is no need to make a rule to help kickers out.
     
  11. Geaux Rockets

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  12. leroy

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    But they can run a fake from that formation. Maybe a coach sees something that tells him a fake is coming (i.e. different player in the game) and then to prevent them from calling a TO to adjust?

    One of the few crappy things about football is that one play can have different rules from the play before or the one after.
     
  13. DCkid

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    One thing they should move back to is only allow player's on the field to signal for the timeout and not the coach. The timeout will be more apparent and the referee who initially blows the whistle will be right there near the action.
     
  14. Geaux Rockets

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    I don't think I have ever seen a coach call a timeout to prevent a fake field goal in an end game situation. Although, Ill admit Id never seen a coach attempt a fake field goal in an end game situation before this weekend, either.

    But I think it's more harmful/annoying to see a kicker kick what everyone things is a game-winning/tying field goal three different times and not having any clue if it'll count or not than preventing a coach from telling his guys not to get fooled by a fake which he already should have done.

    Ill just close by saying Ive never been a big fan of "gamesmanship." I don't like flopping, I don't like coaches using the media to manipulate refs, and I don't like coaches messing around with opposing players heads during games. Some people prefer winning at all costs, Id rather just let the players play and determine the outcome of the game.
     
  15. Geaux Rockets

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    That would actually suit me fine. There didn't seem to be nearly as many re-kicked kicks back when they had the rule.
     
  16. SwoLy-D

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    If he'$ getting paid lot$ of dough, he i$ $uppo$ed to know when to kick, and when not to and, a$ a profe$$ional that he i$, know to make ALL OF THEM, even the one$ where NO ONE CALL$ a TIME OUT. :eek:

    Also, FIXED. *use "whose" when it means "belongs to", not "who is".
     
  17. v3.0

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    Kickers aren't QBs. No need for special rules for them. Man up and hit the 2nd FG attempt. That's all there is to it.
     
  18. DonkeyMagic

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    ND should have called a TO against Michigan St

    dont like messing with players heads? so you don't like zone blitzing schemes designed to confuse a QB? You don't like play action passes because it fakes a run? You don't like pump fakes because it's fooling the other player that you are taking a shot?

    Players are determining the outcome. The player missed a FG.
     
  19. v3.0

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    What's the point of having coaches then?

    Sounds like you want all pro sports to be like golf.
     
  20. TheDreams

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    I never seen a coach call a TO to prevent a fake fg attempt in an end game situation either but why take that option away? What if they need to call a TO for having too many players or not enough players on the field? You have three timeouts, you should be able to use them how you please. I don't think anything needs to be changed but like DCKid stated, I would be ok with players only being allowed to call timeouts.
     

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