More qb's should pump fake. You almost never see that anymore. If you have time to check down to 3 and 4 you have time to pump out the defense.
Football is a definitive team sport. Tom Montana and his prison wife Manning is considered the best QB and has the best stats, but has a 2-10 record against the Pats. Tom Montana absolutely owns him in win/loss %. And that's the only record that matters.
I agree with your comment about the offensive line being a major factor, however I think Emmitt Smith would have done well with even an average OLine. A better example would have been (insert any Dever RB here). As far as the QB yardage thing goes, I think the system is fine. If the QB shouldn't get credit for yards after the catch then they also shouldn't be charged for incompletions that the reciever obviously dropped.
If you gave Peyton Manning that defense that Brady has all these times he would have been 12-0. Qbs dont directly play against each other so you cant really make that comparison. Besides I think if you switched the qbs and left the rest of the teams the same then peyton will go undefeated and brady will not be nearly as good. Like always the pats defense does all the work and the good looking QB with the model wife gets all the credit.
I gotta disagree on this one. Peyton always seems to fold when the presure is on. Put Peyton and Brady in a skills compatition and I would have my money on Peyton, but in a real game Tom can bring it when his team needs it. He is a real leader.
I am not making it an individual thing I am talking about how they keep statistics. However since you want talk about the TEAM. The TEAM isnt factored into Peyton Manning, Terrell Owens etc. Getting the big contracts. Or how Tom Brady will go to the Hall of fame but his offensive line will not. So lets not even get into that. Thats a whole different topic. Dude what are you talkin about. I am not debating whether football is a team sport or not. It is the ultimate team sport. You are mis-reading what I am debating about. This is not about a coach that wins 50 games, does that mean he wins the games blazay blazay. Read my point again. I am speaking how they keep statistic's and how much of it really shows what the QB did period. I am not refering to individualistic stats and whether it shoud come before the team or whatever your refering. The question is simple. Shouldnt we keep track of exactly what a QB passes for to show truly the yards "HE" threw for. Not the yards the receiver ran for after the catch. To break it down to you all I am saying is if they are going to keep stats in a team sport then shouldnt they keep the QB's stats more accurately. To count passing yards they should count total yards passed for then subtract it by yards after the catch (YAC). This would truly show what ones passing yards is. Exactly, I also agree with this. Another good point receivers should also be penalized for the obvious drops, not the QB.
I also agree with you here, E.Smith was a good running back, B.Sanders was just great. With a decent O-line he still would have been good, just statisticly not as good. He had a dominate line. Not his fault, luck of the draw. I used to have to debate this with Dallas fans day-in and day-out. However he is the NFL rushing leader no matter how you see it. Taking statistics out and talking about true skills, he doesnt hold a candle to B.Sanders.
i don't think Vick sucks. i just think he's way overrated. and i guess it's that time of the year again to have that conversation.
Michael Vick will NEVER have impressive passing numbers, he's too short, but it wouldn't surprise me one bit to see him win a Super Bowl or two despite his size, that might make him the shortest QB to ever win a Super Bowl. I compare him to AI, both are insanely talented, IMO the most talented guard and QB in their leagues, but they have a hard time making up for their size. Michael Vick can't just drop back and pass over those huge D-line men like a normal quarterback, he can't see through them and his throwing lanes are smaller than other guys like Brady, McNabb, Manning etc, a couple of inches make a huge difference. Same deal with AI, almost always playing against someone bigger and stronger than he is which makes his fg % drop big time even though he's a pretty good shooter when he has a clear look at the basket. He still needs to work on his touch, but he can read defenses, his throwing mechanics are fine, and his arm strength is elite, too bad he's not 6'-4", he's probably not even 6'-1". About Manning and Brady. You can't just say give Peyton that defense and he would be 12-0, cause I can just say give Brady that offense and Manning would still lose. Don't take anything away from Brady and what he does, because his team does the right thing and decides to use their money on great defensive players while only asking him to manage the games and make the plays to win the game. The Colts surround Peyton with talent every other quarterback in the league wishes he can have and he gets to play in a stadium, winning and losing is all on the offense, all on him. The Colts defense is Freeney and who else? The Colts offense is Manning, Harrison, James, Stockley, Wayne, Glenn, Clark, Saturday, Diem, and Vanderjagt, you tell me who's supposed to win the games. Stop making excuses for him, he chokes.
What can I say, I spent my formative preteen years in a suburb of Atlanta. I'm a Falcons, Braves, and former Hawks fan. Just call me a glutton for punishment.
A better stat than throw to catch yards would be yards before the first hit. That way the QB gets credit for any yards the receiver gets untouched, but no credit for anything the receiver does after breaking a tackle. I am with the majority that say the system is fine as is, but this would be a better adjustment than the throw to catch metric, which would punish quarterbacks for throwing any pass that is designed for YAC, like a screen.
Well I was not talking about being a leader I was just saying that QBs cannot "own" opponent QBs. It would have been apt to say that Bill Bellichick has always been able to stop Manning with his defensive schemes. This has nothing to do with Brady. You could make a case for Peyton if the Indy defense was picking off brady 4 times a game. Like it or not superbowl or not peyton is the better QB.
