I agree that season three will be huge. Assuming they are able to make some upgrades on the offense, Vince will have his chance to show whether or not he is able lead his team beyond first round playoff fodder. I think it's still too early to say he'll definitely sink or swim, but after next year, the management should have a much better feel for the situation. With that said, i wouldn't draft anyone this year unless it's a best player available type of deal. It'll be interesting to see, also, how the rb situation plays out. Will Chris Henry get more looks? Is Lendale their guy? Does Chris Brown stick around? That fumble today sure didn't help him.
Young actually didn't play that bad. It's not his fault that his RB fumbled inside the 10, or that his kicker missed a gimmie FG. That's at least 6 points right there, which completely changes the complexity of the game.
He didn't get it done b/c he can't do what he's best at - run. Norm Chow is not letting him run. You could see there were several pass attempts on which VY wanted to run - but he hesitated and ate a sack or threw a ball away What made VY special is his uncanny ability to run - which Fisher/Chow won't let him do Time to change the offense.
LOL now we're blaming everybody but Vince. Let's face the facts - Vince can't keep his wheels healthy and you don't want the guy gimping around on a bum quad. When Vince is a drop back passer, he absolutely sucks - I think we can all agree on that point. Vince hasn't shown me that he can stay healthy in the NFL, which running QBs have always had a hard time doing.
OK... Look, a QB knows if he can run and get yards when nobody is open then run. No offensive coordinator or coach is going to tell you to pass into coverage, take a sack, or throw it away if you can gain positive yardage running.
Wrong. That is exactly what Fisher and Chow have told Young to do this year. In the preseason they stated that they wanted to turn Vince into a more classic drop back passer and to stop him from running as much as he does b/c of potential injuries. But now you can tell Vince is hesitating to run. There were several times that VY obviously wanted to take off on the run - but hesitated. His body started to take off, but then he stopped himself and stayed in the pocket and took a sack or threw an incompletion. VY needs to go back to being the VY of last year and at UT - not the conservative offense dropback passer they're trying to make him to be - b/c that's not what he does best.
What he does best is suck. Haha. It's the coaches fault. "Damn it Fisher please let KY be as great as I told everyone he is! Quit holding him back!" This is great.
Dude already injured his quad twice this year. You don't want your franchise player to get seriously injured from taking a hit when he doesn't have to. You don't want him to be like Vick 2003 and miss an entire season.
You're absolutely correct. But there has to be a happy middle ground - last year may have been too much running - but this year was too little. The Titans drafted Vince knowing he was not a classic drop back passer. Now if there goal was to transform him - well they probably shouldn't have drafted him. If they want to win - they need to figure out how to use Vince's talents - not change him into what they want him to be - b/c as was obvious from this year - that won't work.
That actually makes sense, if VY can develop into a drop back passer, then it would make him that more dangerous. It isnt a bad time for the Titans to "waste" a year experimenting with VY's development, they still made the playoffs with that horrid offense. A lot of people just want him to have a green light to take off whenever he wants to, but thats the wrong move and short sighted. Barring major injury hes always going to have his legs and running ability. Remember running QBs usually struggle with injuries and are containable if they can't throw consistently.
The Micheal Jordan of the NFL should be able to overcome such obstacles. Six points? Come on, what happened to always showing up for big games?
Actually I believe they told him not to panic and run so quickly. Take the reads, let the routes develop, and if its not there, take off and run. This season I think its been part Offensive design, and part teams knowing that if you dont give Young plenty of lanes to make big runs, its tougher for him to do it. Last year teams were rushing him like he was a slow plodding QB and were way out of position. Not as much of that this year. In today's game there was one time that the Chargers lost contain from the ends, and on that play Young ran 9 yards for a first down on 3rd down.
He did show up IMO. He didn't play great but he didn't pay bad, especially for a 2nd yr QB. Actually compared to the rest of the QB's that played this weekend I am not really dissapointed: Hasselbeck - 20/32 (63%), 229 yds, 1 TD, 2 Int's....and he has receivers Collins - 29/50 (58%), 266 yds, 2 TD's, 2 Int's....and he has receivers Big Ben - 29/42 (69%), 337 yds, 2 TD's, 3 Int's, 1 lost fumble....and he has receivers Garrard - 9/21 (43%), 140 yds, 1 TD, 2 Int's....and he won the game with a running play Garcia - 23/39 (59%), 207 yds, 1 TD, 2 Int's....and he has at least 1 WR Manning - 20/27 (74%), 185 yds, 2 TD's....and he has receivers Rivers - 19/30 (63%), 292 yds, 1 TD, 1 Int....and he has reveivers and LT Young - 16/29 (55%), 138 yds, 0 TD, 1 Int....and he has no receivers For those who say Young blew it or didn't manage the game well you obviously didn't watch the game. His stats are not off the charts but the Titans were playing grind it, run the clock, keep the ball away from SD and LT offense...and it was working. They left at least 6 points on the board in a tight defensive struggle (and Fisher said before the game he wanted to keep the score low). The key to playing a game like this was limiting turnovers...which VY did very well until the end when it was hurry up and catch them time. So did VY show up? IMO he did. Go rewatch the Steelers or Redskins games and you will see examples of QB's losing the game for their teams. Now for those of you saying VY is the MJ of football and didn't save the world today, you sound just as silly as the pro VY crowd that was making ridiculous claims last season. Both crowds are silly IMO. Now if you want to argue that VY is sucking for a 2nd yr QB (as far as what you would expect)...then open up the gates. I still think he is doing fine for his 2nd year. Then again I watched Carr for multiple seasons, watch Eli get his knob slobbed for throwing tons of pics, etc....
The Titans were held to 70 net yards in the 2nd half. 70! (The Titans' opening drive was 61 freaking yards.) And their time of possession in the 2nd half was a miserable 8:24. They also only had 4 total first downs in the 2nd half, including 0 (yes, ZIP) in the 4th quarter. How can you possibly say Vince managed the game well?? I don't know what Vince has to do to get criticism from Titans fans. Even John freaking McClain, VY Homer #1, said this morning that he believed Kerry Collins should have started over Vince since he gave the Titans the best chance to win.
You're right - they told him to be more patient. But for some reason - having watched every game this season - he seems to have taken the advice and gone an extra step with it - he refuses to leave the pocket - even when he knows he should It was obvious yesterday when he would tuck the ball and make a move like he was going to take off (and there was enough open space to warrant a QB rush) - but then it was like a light bulb went off in his head - "Chow/Fisher want me to stay in this pocket - so I'm staying" and he turned a sure positive QB rushing situation into a miserable throw or sack. Like I said there needs to be middle ground - and until they find that - this offense won't be any good - even if Randy Moss were to ever leave the Pats and move to Tennessee.
