Exactly, that's my point... is she hot? yes are her clothes too tight? for sure is she hispanic? si but that doesn't mean the Jets have to act like teenager with a boner and harass her...again, did she dress that way on purpose, maybe, maybe not, but who cares, have some respect and common courtesy... I'm befuddled...
Dang. Talk about some horny dudes that couldn't control their urges. One thing that IS tolerated is for someone without a real name, like here on the BBS, to say "man, she's hot" or "dang, I'd hit that" and there's only some of us who will not say that, and some of us that will, but to have your name plastered all over newspapers about what you did that was unprofessional like what these athletes did... is bad. Don't act like you don't know what I am talking about. Hey, she was a reporter at the time... not showing her flesh all over the guys. Don't compare the two. Are you saying that you want ALL reporters to be BAD LOOKING? Where did you hear or read that it WASN'T? Maybe if the A-S-S-E-S that are the J-E-T-S, J-E-T-S-, Jets!Jets!Jets! should have realized that they are AT WORK and should have conducted themselves as such professionals, and not at a construction site's break area.
You're a cave man and want to bring everyone down to your level so you can feel like you belong. This isn't about testosterone at all, it's about men dripping with shortcomings looking for ways to justify desperate behavior. Take the following in groups: Quarterbacks Offensive Lineman Shortstops Formula 1 Driver All of these guys, by default, will have a healthy amount of testosterone. Put a scantily clad girl in front of them and who makes the most noise? The simple minded offensive lineman, no doubt. Their only life missions are to block and eat, and when they're presented with this perplexing situation, they don't know how to deal with it other than gather in groups and howl and throw objects at the girl. But the confident girl who wears provocative clothing doesn't really want that. She wants your suffering to be silent and internal, and to treat her in an unassuming way before you get to know her. That's her role as someone with a vag. And as highly evolved mammals, the most superior on this planet, it's really not too much to ask. Harassment has nothing to do with your biological needs. That's a weak sauce excuse.
To the contrary, O-lineman are usually some of the the smartest guys on the team, it's not a easy position to play.
Whatever. If they don't want things like this to happen, then have a dress code for reporters to come there. You gotta be kidding me. She goes there looking like that and everyone is upset when the athletes are catcalling her? She knew what she was doing... and for her to act like she can't believe they stooped to that is not only disingenuous, but borderline offensive. Has anyone ever watched any Telemundo or Univision? Don't know anything about TV Azteca, but I'm guessing she wasn't as "shocked" and "offended" as she's coming off. A guess. Back me up or set me straight, Swoly. The Association of Women in Sports Media might want to rethink whether they're furthering a just cause through this incident, or setting it back 40 years. This is just a thought.
You're being for real, not acting. Good for you. What about coaches Ryan and Thurman? Do they have MORE testosterone? http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-...arassment-of-female-reporter-at-practice.html EDIT: These are both in the United States of America, not Mexico. I thought USA players were a bit more respectful than Mexican or "Hispanics?" You know? Bottom line is, any work environment, whether a TV station, locker room, or street, should respect these woman... I mean, Suzy Kolber deserves some respect, darn it!!!
Maybe if the R-E-P-O-R-T-E-R dressed like a R-E-P-O-R-T-E-R and not a W-H-O-R-E looking to turn a trick, they would have. My guess is that there were other female reporters there and none of them got this reaction...because they dressed professionally and didnt draw unnecessary attention.....not to mention the others probably took their job a bit more seriously too
Let's talk about that for a moment, sir... Do you have pictures from that particular day? So... auto-magically, you'll believe that anyone dressed like that DESERVES to be treated like... what you spelled out? Really? http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20016258-504083.html
It's not a social event. They're being held to a professional ethical standard while she "performs her role" "causing them silent and internal suffering" as preordained by being part of the the most highly evolved / most superior mammals on the planet? They probably need a lesson in keeping their mouth shut, but she isn't surprised. That's her angle, apparently.
To me, this reaction by the players is just an extension of their head coach. He's obnoxious and shows very little respect for much of anything or anyone. On the contrary, a football locker room IS kind of the last place for a woman to be walking around in revealing clothing. This is a sanctuary for players, a place where grown men tend to act like hormonal teenagers. Walking into a locker room like that when it is full of naked men who's blood and testosterone is pumping after a practice or game is just asking for something inappropriate to happen.
I think you're evading my point, but fine. How you dress and handle yourself in a large way begets the respect you garner from your peers in a working environment... but I agree otherwise.
No, I'm not, sir. I meant to say that the "cat calling" and "howling" is not seen in such a bad light in MEXICO, but the organizations you cite of TV stations and the NFL are all in the US and A. I then mention that here, that sort of harassment to a female reporter or just to anyone in general is not tolerated at all, and that there are organizations, lawsuits, etc., that make it much more difficult to let pass as it is not done in my country. I haven't seen what you and others are saying as "the way she was dressed", so I cannot comment on that. Where does any report say she was showing half her body so she could deserve that treatment?
Ottomaton wrote off the incident because she embraced her figure in an environment with "high testosterone levels". It's a weak cop out, try following the flow of conversation once in a while instead of popping in with irrelevant questions and a plethora of smilies. Not surprised with what a ridiculously out of shape old guy and his second in command do in their spare time. It's not like they have other options. Why is this? Other than reading audibles and blitzes? I'm not a football expert, I was just trying to illustrate this has more to do with lack of savvy and brain power than testosterone.
Yes, they do have the option of being professional, since they're reasoning animals or human beings. They have options to PRACTICE FOOTBALL instead of paying attention to the bodily distractions that are women asking them questions in a FOOTBALL FIELD. Are you distracted by smilies in my posts? Are you going to howl and hiss and make catcalls to the smilies instead of staying with the point?
Not saying anyone deserved anything, just that if you don't look professional, you often don't get treated professionally. I think if it bothers her the way they acted, perhaps she should consider appearing more professional herself.
This is the sports and entertainment industry, not Ernst & Young. The media has created a separate set of standards for them and she's embracing them.
here's a link to a pic of what Ines herself says she was dressed like http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/12/ines-sainz-azteca-jets_n_713843.html any more questions?
