[NFL] Cowboys Agree to Trade for Pacman

if u are in Dallas area strip club and Pacman Jones is there, run out of the building or make sure you are wearing a bullet proof vest!

 

I'm a Cowboys fan and I'll be waiting to see how it turns out.

Thing is.....this is what you want the Cowboys to be isn't it? They are the rotten b*stards who will sign all of these problems players that everyone hates.....and deep down.....thats how people that hate them with a passion want them to stay!

 

I hope he becomes a starting CB, has a great season returning punts but then "exercises poor judgment", gets suspended late in the season & banned from the NFL which throws the Cowboys lockerroom into turmoil and leaves a big hole on their team.

31 other NFL teams had a chance at this guy. Only one team was interested. That says this supposed "huge upside" is unlikely to happen and the supposed "low risk" for a team isn't really that low.

 

I remember that dropped pass like it was yesterday.

 

This may be the stupidest move since Al Davis gave Larry Brown millions for stepping in front of 2 dumb Neil O'donnell passes.

 

The Cowboys need to give Pac Man the Barry Bonds type clubhouse luxuries. Instead of a big screen next to PacMan's locker they can install a stripper pole inside of one those cash grabbing booths they use for half time contests. PacMan can make it rain (and get his money back by refusing to let the stripper out of the booth until he gets all his cash back) and get his freak on.

 

When the Cowboys took TO after he had spun the ball on their logo, you knew they had no pride.

 

I still don't see what the big deal is with Jones. I mean his numbers do not reflect anything that says he is a shut down corner or even a dominant defender, like some posters have stated. His greatest strength is his return game from what I have seen. We'll see how it works out.

 

Exactly.

Here's a very similar scenario....

The Raiders are fed up with Phillip Buchanon's attitude after only 2 seasons. The Texans gave up a 3rd rounder for him and everyone was creaming themselves because he's had like 5 return TDs in his first 2 seasons. Then it takes about 8 quarters for them to figure out he can't cover a fullback on a fly route. Meanwhile the Raiders got Kirk Morrison (current starting MLB, leads team with 100+ tackles yearly) out of it.

Not saying Pacman is as bad as Burnt Toast, but sometimes you take a gamble and lose.

 

No, the deal has provisions where if he flames out, or is not reinstated, or even 'fails to produce on the field', then the Titans will have to repay a pick in the next draft. This is a total low-risk move, very little downside. If the guy continues to be a knucklehead, then they jettison him, no harm done, and they get a pick back.

But if he DOES get himself straightened out, then everyone looks back on it like the steal that it COULD be, just like when Moss went to the Pats for little cost and low risk.

There's nothing wrong for rooting for a bad guy to change his stripes and become a good guy. Saul -> Paul. Chris Carter. Heck, look at Rafer. Even Artest, wacky he may be, at least has not been a danger to the community.. Cowboy's guys who have turned it aorund - Irvin, TO, recently Tank Johnson.

First thing, the guy needs to stop being called 'Pacman', and needs to start calling himself Adam, and really turn over a new leaf. And just have to hope that he really understands his situation - it's not like he's going to the Cowboys for a big paycheck - they are also restructuring his contract to be heavily weighted with behavior-clauses and performance incentives.

This isn't Jerry Jones throwing open his arms and embracing 'bad guys' with bushels of money. This is a GM who sees a potential high value at a low cost, and as a businessman, he has decided it's worth at least a minimal risk. This is him saying to Adam Jones, 'You want to play here, after all you've done? You're going to have to prove you're worth it, you're going to have to earn it. If you do that, you can be a part of this family, and you will be rewarded, IF you keep your head on straight. If you slip up, even once, you're out of here.'.

Jerry Jones has had some pretty good success over the last few years, buying value for below-market prices. Look at Ken Hamlin, Marc Columbo, Tank Johnson played pretty well. Look at Romo, even TO. Picking up Cleveland's #1 this year and Anthony Spencer last year all just for Brady Quinn (how would you like to have THAT one back now, Cleveland? *cough*DerekAnderson*cough*). The days of giving away 2 first-round picks for guys like Joey Galloway are long gone, thank goodness.

I do hope it works out. Nothing wrong with that. And if it doesn't, no big deal.

 

Where did you see that if he fails to produce then the Cowboys would get something in return. I think that is something you just came up with because the provisions I have read about state that if he plays a significant amount of time then the Cowboys have to give up another pick in addition to the one they already gave up. That means he could play and start all 16 games without one tackle and the Cowboys would still be out of another pick.

In fact, the only provisions I have seen are dealing with his reinstatement and playing time. I don't think the Titans would have pulled the trigger if they are going to be responsible for his antics anymore, that would be utterly stupid and what would be the point of the trade?

 

Certainly true - they are different types of problems, but they are problems nonetheless. TO basically caused the Eagles to implode. Moss quit on multiple teams. If anything, they were a much bigger problem on the field than Pacman. Pacman is a risk to be kicked out of the league, but if he's on the field, he's not nearly the risk to team chemistry as the other two. If you could have gotten Ray Lewis for a 4th round pick, that was a no-brainer too - that was more the off-the-field problem. Any of those guys - TO, Moss, Lewis (if he was traded), Pacman - they are low-risk / high reward. At best, they take your team to a new level. At worst, you lose a mid-round pick.

For those of you who say it's not low-risk, what is the big downside to the move?

 

I wouldn't call it low-risk because they have the potential to lose more than 1 pick but I wouldn't call it high-risk because those picks might not pan out to be anything anyway.

 

"According to recent reports, the Cowboys would be willing to send the Titans an additional pick in 2009 should Jones play and play well in 2008. But the Cowboys are negotiating for an insurance policy, meaning they want the Titans to agree to repay the Cowboys a draft choice in 2009 should Pacman Jones not play this season or for whatever reason fail to produce on the field."

That comes from the Cowboys' own website - how much of it is set in stone, nobody knows yet, but that is where I saw that prior to my posting.

http://www.dallascowboys.com/news.cfm?id=7DB11822-90CB-5C6E-FEE72D0870D4E366

 

I seriously doubt they got that in there and from the reports I have read and seen from AP, ESPN, etc. they didn't but like you said who knows right now.

 

It's funny to see ppl make a big deal when some stands on your logo or spins a ball on it. Who cares? It's just grass or turf. That's not a reason not to sign anyone. Becasue they stood on your logo at mid-field.

 

The aftermath of that event says different.

 

TO's sole motive was to disrespect the Cowboys or he wouldn't have run downfield to do what he did.