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[NFL] Cowboys Agree to Trade for Pacman

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by gucci888, Apr 23, 2008.

  1. Angle02

    Angle02 Member

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    When we first got TO everyone was saying bad things and how he wouldn't last through the year. I think Pacman will work out similar. He knows this is his last chance and if he messes up he'll be out of the league for good. He wanted to play for Dallas and now he got his wish. Low risk and high reward as someone already mentioned.
     
  2. Drexlerfan22

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    Ditto.

    Sure, it may work out... but I was much more on board with this when we were talking 5th rounder, not 4th...
     
  3. VooDooPope

    VooDooPope Love > Hate

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    I hated Deion when they got him. I hated TO when they got him. They both won me over eventually. I hope PAC man gets his act together and does the same.
     
  4. rocketfan83

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    I seriously doubt he's even close to being in shape. Somehow I doubt Adam has much of an work ethic.
     
  5. Major

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    I hate the Cowboys, but totally agree with this. It's the same as the Randy Moss move for the Patriots. The upside is that you get a probowler for a 4th round pick. The downside is you release him and you lose a 4th round. It's a no-brainer if character is not a major team concern, or if you believe you have the leadership to rehabilitate the guy (like the Patriots felt with Moss).
     
  6. Bandwagoner

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    I would have never thought they would actually get a 4th for him.

    There is no promise this guy can even play again.
     
  7. rodrick_98

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    they (the cowboys) get a pick in '09 if he isn't reinstated. low risk/high reward.

    http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/stories/042408dnspopacman.9273f1ac.html

     
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  8. RocketFan007

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    Randy Moss and Pacman aren't even on the same planet as far as being a distraction.
     
  9. Bandwagoner

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    like other mid/late round picks, the 4th is hit or miss. i'd gladly give up a 4th rounder for the risk of pacman.


    previous 4th round picks:
    2007 - Stanback Isaiah
    2006 - Skyler Green
    2005 - Marion Barber
    - Chris Canty
    2004 - Bruce Thornton
    2003 - Bradie James
    2002 - Jamar Martin
    2001 - Markus Steele
    2000 - Kareem Larrimore

    http://databasefootball.com/draft/draftteam.htm?tm=DAL&lg=nfl
     
  11. rrj_gamz

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    This is a low risk with huge upside...A shutdown guy who can return punts...It's next year or bust anyway...
     
  12. slowmustang

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    Mike Vick is happy knowing at least one team will give him a chance.
     
  13. rodrick_98

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    as a receiver? when does he sign?
     
  14. ndnguy85

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  15. Dubious

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    Charles Haley was the first hired gun to sign with the Cowboys. I hated Charles Haley... but that turned out OK.

    Actually it was former Cardinals tight end Jackie Smith, but you guys are too young to remember that sad tale.

    After spending his entire career with the Cardinals, Smith signed with Dallas in 1978. Although the 38-year old Smith was used only as a blocking tight end in the goal line formation and didn't catch a pass during the entire season, joining Dallas allowed him to make his first (and only) trip to the NFL Super Bowl (The Cardinals only made the playoffs twice in his 15 seasons, and they lost both times in the first round). Unfortunately, this turned out to leave a bitter mark on his career, as he ended up being remembered for committing one of the most famous errors in Super Bowl history. With his team trailing the Pittsburgh Steelers 21-14 in the third quarter of Super Bowl XIII, Smith dropped a third down pass in the end zone from quarterback Roger Staubach. Because of the drop, the Cowboys had to settle for a field goal to make the score 21-17. The Cowboys ended up losing the game by 4 points, 35-31, and Smith retired before the start of the next season

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_Smith
     
  16. gucci888

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    As 007 put it...Moss and Pacman shouldn't even be put in the same sentence as far as distractions. You're absolutely right that it's a no-brainer if character is not a major team concern, but with Pacman, it's the ONLY concern. I don't put Moss and TO in the same category as Pacman, there are egos and attitude issues (like Moss/TO have/had) and then there are straight criminality issues.

    Angle- Good call on the TO thing, he turned out pretty nice considering how much everyone (including myself) thought it wouldn't turn out but don't forget all the stuff that happened before Wade got there (suicide attempt, missing practices, etc...). But like I said, there is a difference between TO and Pacman.

    I'll eat some crow if Pacman turns out well, but I still don't like how Jerry Jones is willing to bring him on despite all the crap that has gone on with him.
     
  17. rodrick_98

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    pacman isn't a bad teammate. what has he done to disturb the team chemistry?

    certainly his acts are criminal, but when he was playing what did he do that directly disrupted the locker room. sure you can point to the media attention and his absence, but while he was with the team (as far as i know) he didn't do anything like TO or moss.

    tank johnson had criminal acts, paid his dues, came in mid way through the season and played without incident. why would i think pacman will be any different?
     
  18. Icehouse

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    Im failing to see the problem. Yeah, the dude messed up and he missed a year of his career (major in the NFL) and a years salary for it. He hasn't done any jail-time for anything, right? So what, is he not supposed to have the opportunity to play football again? He has already been penalized by missing a season (again, for something he wasn't even convicted for).

    From a team point of view, they only gave up a 4th round pick, so you can't even say it's really risky.

    So what's the problem? Especially in Dallas, which has never really been a place for Saints.
     
  19. gucci888

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    http://www.wsmv.com/news/13539754/detail.html

    So you're okay as long as you don't go to jail? Put it this way, if you had gotten in this much trouble, do you think you would still have your job? I know it's obviously different but this guy has gotten into some serious trouble the short time he's been in the league. I do understand your points though.

    But to answer your question, Goodell is contemplating whether he wants to give Pacman the opportunity to play football again (I'm sure he will) but you're making it sound like a right vs. a privilege.
     
  20. IROC it

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    What's the moral of the story kids??

    Do all you want off the field... you can always find work in Dallas.
     

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