Markieff is so close to Harden he signed with the Lakers instead despite the Lakers being full of Cs and PFs already lol. We got to stop the midget ball experiment. Not only does it tire players out and destroy their 3 pt shot due to fatigue, we lose so many of the gimmes due to opponent rebounds and layup lines. We need somebody at least 6'10 or taller at center IMO.
I think Wood is harder to get than Ibaka. No way Detroit give up Wood for anything less than 2 1sts. They'd probably want another 1st to take Eric's Contract. But yea everything needs to go right for us to have a chance next year
I'm presuming Rivers doesn't pick up his option And we release Clemons That should leave enough room for a MLE & mins.
He was chasing a ring. He is so close to Harden I see them meet at half court talking after each game they are in. I can’t understand the fascination of the big center still playing a major role. _________________________________________________ Portland: big Centers Nurkic/Whiteside allowed Lakers to score 117 points per game in their 1st round series. Rockets: so small and no real center allowed the Lakers 111 points per game in the 2nd round series. Nuggets: big center Jokic allowed the Lakers 114 points per game in the 3rd round series. Miami: no big center just stretch 4 in Olynyk allowed the Lakers 110 points per game in the finals. In theory the big centers protect the rim, keep players fresh, get the rebounds and stop 2nd chance points which keeps the other teams points down.......but the teams with big Centers were abused more than the teams without. Houston was so gassed and lost 6’6” House from most of the games with no Centers but yet kept the Lakers to less points per game than the better rested Nuggets and Blazers. The league has figured out how to run the bigs off the court and force them to contest perimeter shots.....taking them away from their comfort spot, near the rim. Thus getting more 3’s and fast break points. D-12/JaVale MeGee played little to no role in the Lakers getting to the finals.
cont’d from post #44 above... What did playing big get: Myles Turner? 1st round exit against a team with no center (Miami) Adebayo has a PF frame. Boban/Dwight Powell/Porzingis/Willie Cauley-Stein? 1st round exit Valacunas? 1st round exit vs Boston......a team with little to no center. The teams with big centers and well rested got sent home early......to rest some more. Early vacations. Steven Adams? Went bye-bye 1st round
Dwight Powell tore his Achilles in January and did not play in the restart. Willie Cauley-Stein opted out and did not play in the restart. Porzingis got hurt in the first round. If Dallas would have had 2 of those 3 for the first round, they would have beat the Clippers. Oh and Boban is a good dude but not really playable in today's NBA. So not a good example to validate your point.
Well if Ibaka is out for MLE, maybe go after Anthony Davis for MLE instead?? Maybe even kick in a few extra million a year??
Which big guy isn’t too slow that is about $2M to $5M in today’s small ball era? The whole point of getting a center on a rookie contract is to easily sit them vs so many of the small ball teams. Markieff bodies up against a player like AD while help defense help. No player is truly on their own vs players today. As long as they don’t have Scola concrete boots on. Valanciunas 107 DRtg (19/20) Myles Turner 105 DRtg (19/20) Nurkic 108 DRtg (19/20) Jokic 108 DRtg (19/20) Markieff 107 DRtg (19/20 Lakers) Jokic in 5 playoff games vs Lakers (19/20): Gm 1 (-12), Gm 2 (-2), Gm 3 (+8), Gm 4 (-6), Gm 5 (-10) Myles Turner in 4 playoff games vs Heat (19/20): Gm 1 (-12), Gm 2 (-9), Gm 3 (-9), Gm 4 (-12)......(-42 for series) Gasol vs Boston in 7 games (19/20): -37 for the series. Turner vs small ball Heat. Gasol vs a small ball Celtics. Nick Nurse has his defense play a 1-3-1 defense to hide the slowness of his big......but did small ball Celtics find enough of the holes in the zone defense?
I'm hopeful that Ibaka isn't out of MLE range because. These Guys have a starting a C Nuggets Thunder Jazz Mavs Blazers Suns Grizz Spurs TWolves Bucks Heat Sixers Pacers Nets Magic Knicks Hawks Cavaliers These guys are in the same position as us. Want a starting C but only have MLE Lakers Clippers Warriors Celtics But with McGee Zubac Looney on rosters. Only Celtics can I see spending their MLE on a Centre. These guys have space but will look for a younger player Kings Pelicans Wizards Hornets Pistons Bulls The main threat is Raptors who have to decide not to bring back Ibaka. Add that Horford Turner Dedmon are on the trade block. Add multiple free agents Favors Cauley-Stein Baynes Gasol Olynk Leonard Plumlee maybe Robin Lopez as free agents. Might work out?
Wait a minute, a good coach can cover up some his players flaws. We don’t need this player or that player because a coach can make it work with what he has. Coaching what a concept. What’s the name of our coach?
They can try to make things work and sometimes be successful.......but if you don’t have the talent, it’s just putting lipstick on a pig. Still a pig. Nurse played 1-3-1 zone with Kawhi Leonard and wins a championship.....does the same without Kawhi and (cough, cough) first round exit. When a coach gets all the success......then they should also get all the blame. Popovich motion offense didn’t have a losing season with Duncan/Robinson.....no Duncan or Robinson not so lucky or fortunate. Talent wins championships......and nowadays that’s more than just one talent.
Loll Ibaka is only 31, I'm not sure if he gets a contract for 4-5 years, but if not he will get a shorter contract for a whole lot more than MLE, my guess is he gets the same type of deal he has now 3 years $65mm, I don't think his value has gone up and likely has stayed the same. Since when does a player leave a contender to go sign for the MLE as the teams third best player, and at 31 years old at that? Lol this is just an absurd thread.
@fattz Tell me your plan? Breaking it up hmm......for who? I’m lnterested in knowing what you are thinking. Blow it up is usually soooo “absolute destruction.”
Good call on Portis ... we need toughness and he definitely would lay someone out for cheap shotting Andy Dalton like that... oh wait Eggball
Precisely why you're not going to get anybody for MLE. Half the league chasing maybe 4 or 5 guys, and they are going to highest bidder. Highest bidder won't be MLE. You'll get somebody, maybe, like Boban (who most people in Dallas think the Mavs should keep)
Those are the guys with a starting C already. These guys are in the same position as us. Want a starting C but only have MLE Lakers Clippers Warriors Celtics But with McGee Zubac Looney on rosters. Only Celtics can I see spending their MLE on a Centre. Could trade Walker or Haywood for Turner These guys have space but will look for a younger players Kings Have Bagley Holmes but Ibaka does fit. Pelicans Ibaka fits but not much cap space Wizards Bryant Wagner might get the mins Hornets They surely know they're not competing. They have Zeller but will look for a less injury prone starting C. Pistons Will start Griffin at C Bulls Will look for your talent probably Raptors remain the main threat
