Next season: How can we MAKE SURE that Yao gets the ball in P&R situation?

fa7999 · May 8, 2004

Do you really think McGrady shooting 41.7% vs. Francis at 40.3% is a significant difference?
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Tmac's shots are usually closed guarded, while SF3's outside jumpers are like JJ's, and Cat's, lots of them are wide open shots.

fa7999 · May 8, 2004

My whole point of this thread is that our guards don't try to create good scoring opportunities for Yao.

I remember vividly Yao mentioned a situation in a home loss to Sun this season. In the 4th quarter, Yao scored on a putback after an offensive rebound off a Cat airball. On the next possession, Cat told Yao to get ready because the ball would be there.

WTF is that kind of thinnking, or mentality? Remeber that Yao was 29-19-6 in that game and 13-19 from the field. And yet he could not get the ball more?

vincejas · May 8, 2004

Yao is not hard to see. He's a 7'6 basketball freak of nature. Its just that steve and cat completely ignore him in pnr situations. He has a nice touch from 10 - 15 feet, use it. TD uses it to his advantage. And like tim, yao has a good post up game too. It just sucks that lour backcourt is continuing to ignore himmost of the time. Look, if the rockets want to join the elite in the west, they must clean house and it all starts in the backcourt.

gotoloveit2 · May 8, 2004

Originally posted by gotoloveit2
Too many times SF just dribbled "around" Yao and at times even doing his cross-over move afterward. A PnR play turned into a 1 on 1 iso. That totally destroyed the whole purpose of PnR. Cat was much better than SF though, at least he could knock down those jumpers more consistently.
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I dont think I would be way off in saying SF is probably the pg with the most broken PnR turning into a 1 on1 iso in this league. Even Cat has more success in PnR with the same center.

QUOTE]Originally posted by gotoloveit2
If your big man doesnt GET USE TO getting the ball back, he is MORE HESITANT to take an open jumper when he does get it back and MORE LIKELY TO MISS. [/QUOTE

You bet Yao's poor shooting, or should I say no shooting in many games, from the high post has a lot to do in not getting the ball back in PnR.

QUOTE]Originally posted by gotoloveit2
Yao could become a dominating force ONLY if BOTH his inside and outside games are fully utilized. [/QUOTE

Even the most YOFs here seldom claim Yao will dominate just by shooting from the outside. Except Shaq, Cato and few others, most centers, even Big Z, in the league shoot more from the high post than Yao does. The roll in the PnR for Yao is more like roll or pop. Yao is just too slow to roll to the basket efficiently in every single PnR. In addition to SF's poor passing ability, it would only create more TOs or even offensive fouls if Yao tries to force the issue. Its only natural for one to become more HESITANT to react, if one doesnt usually get the ball back. I'll bet on my house there are many more announcers and sport writers, including Bill Walton, in yelling at SF not able to pass more to Yao than Yao not rolling to the basket in a PnR.

SamFisher · May 10, 2004

Originally posted by rvpals
You're absolutely right.

I don't think Sam Fisher knows basketball that much. In a pick and roll situation, you got to pass the ball back to the one setting the screen sometimes and depending on the situation. If it's only picks after picks and no pass (like Rox), the defenders can just ignore Yao standing 16 ft away from hoop and collapse on Francis or Cat that's driving, 'cause they know Yao ain't never going to get the pass off PnR.

Sam Fisher, it's not about percentage, why? because any fool knows that you get a higher percentage of FG if you're closer to the basket.

It's all about using whatever weapons you have and exploit the match up with your opponent. Yao is a great shooter, and he can consistently hitting those 16 17 J. If he get the ball more over PnR, and Yao made the lakers pay by doubling on the driving Francis. Don't you think they would have to have some one (like Shaq) coming out of the paint to guard Yao outside, that opens up the middle and Francis and Cat will have a better drive to the paint which results in a high percentage shot. Or if Shaq too lazy to come out and guard Yao, Yao get a clean look to knock down those Js. That's just smart basketball, and with Francis and Yao running a good Pick N Roll, it's our best weapon against the Lakers.
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Gosh, Rvpals, maybe I don't know much about roundball; I guess Kareem Abdul Jabbar must not know much about basketball neither:

"I don't think he really understands how to use his height when he's in close at the basket. He wants to come out to 15 feet, where he can shoot over anybody. He can do that, but if he can get in closer to the basket and then operate from there, taking the six-foot shot, the high-percentage shot, that would really help his game. He doesn't play the game that way at this point in his career. I think he could be very effective (if he played that way)."
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