Next-Gen pre orders : 3 PS4's and 1 Xbox One....looking to scalp.

Thank you, this I don't have a problem with at all. Watch your back scalpers it's on now.

 

And the Xbone here:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_slc.asp?CatId=8894&name=Consoles&Nav=|c:8844|&Sort=3&Recs=10

 

Ugh...

MS, what have you done?

 

For those that are ordering online...make sure you are pre-ordering and getting it when it's released. Some sites allow you to pre-order, but there is no launch guarantee. For instance, you can order on Amazon, but it wont be a day one version...you'll get it as soon as they get more in. Just an fyi.

The Microsoft store in the Galleria has some left...they're doing a midnight launch when the release date is known.

 

Exactly, this happens every year with the new iPhones for the first week or so.

 

Please stop saying "XBone". It's creeping me out.

 

OP probably doesn't have $500 to his name. Why do you think he is selling preorders LMAO

 

Are you joking me? How does what he is doing warrant this? If someone is gladly willing to pay a premium for an item that the OP spent his hard earned money on, that's their prerogative. Do you think someone that is hard up on cash is really going to be willing to spend $400 for a video game console, let alone $600+? I could understand if he was price gouging on water or gasoline right before a hurricane, but this is a non-essential item (many would even consider it a "toy"). You guys are taking this way too far with wishing this upon him and I think you are both scummier than anything the OP has done or said.

"Oh boo-hoo, OP is preventing others that want the system from pre-ordering it. He will ruin the experience for everyone." Boo-freaking-hoo. You snooze you lose. They had plenty of opportunities to pre-order. If you haven't by now, it's probably not that important. If you can't afford to pre-order, maybe you should reconsider if spending hundreds of dollars on video games.

Get off your high horses.

 

He's not selling orders, he's selling the consoles...

 

I think you'll be able to get some good profit. There are always ppl willing to pay without waiting and ppl in other parts of the world willing to pay top dollar for it. Not sure if they are region locked but I believe Xbox isn't.

 

Eh, it was more laziness on my part...the PS4 is more powerful, but the XB1 will be offloading a lot more stuff to the cloud, making the two systems much more equivalent. John Carmack discussed this recently. It wouldnt make sense for the PS4 to offload much, since the system is already stronger. The Forza developers said that offloading to the cloud gave a 600 percent processing boost.

For Call of Duty, the XBox is getting cloud powered dedicated servers...the PS4 will not. That's a big difference if you are into online gaming.

That brings me to another positive for Xbox...all XBox multiplayer games will have dedicated servers. This is not the case with PS4.

So the XBox cloud, as it stands now, seems to benefit the XBox a lot more than the PS4 cloud...thereby making the two systems much more equivalent in "power". If you care to disagree, please explain.

EDIT

Discussion of Microsoft's Azure technology

http://www.developer-tech.com/news/2013/aug/22/xbox-one-actually-more-powerful-ps4/

 

Well be prepared to be back-lashed is all I'm saying. You can share your opinions to the internet for all I care but don't expect people to sit back and be quiet about it. Nobody is stopping you from doing the things you do, so opinions shouldn't matter anyways unless you get butthurt easily.

 

Not really, more bothered at how MS is playing up the cloud, and spreading BS.

Making some big assumptions here.

Why would the XBO be offloading more stuff to the cloud?

Why wouldn't you offload this same stuff with the PS4? If it is an effective solution, you use it no matter what (and you can free up "local" resources to do something else). Not to mention why would you implement something in two different ways (assuming this is a multiplatform game)?

Do you have a link to what you mean exactly with your reference to John Carmack? I recall him talking about both consoles, but I don't recall him saying something along those lines regarding the cloud. IIRC, he basically said the two consoles were pretty much the same (I agree...relatively speaking), and that the cloud wouldn't give the XBO an advantage (or something along those lines). Didn't seem like that big of a supporter (also not a supporter of the "zero button mouse with lots of latency" aka Kinect, but that's another issue).

Not sure I really believe that. Maybe it is true, but not really that big of a deal:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08fIrWr9Zvg&t=0m50s
Seems like the same silly AI from older Forza games. Need 9000% increase until cars quit running into walls and causing wrecks needlessly?

Don't think that is technically accurate. They're not talking about PS4. XBO and PC get dedicated servers, and I think current-gen is P2P (not sure if that is confirmed either, but thought I saw a tweet). They won't discuss the usage of dedicated servers on other platforms yet.

Wouldn't be surprised either way, though I figure they might as well (especially if they want to keep their next-gen codebases as similar possible).

Not true. MS is discounting access to their servers (also helping with setup IIRC), so most developers will likely take advantage of that. But as always, it is up to the developer (or publisher to be more specific).

Same with PS4. I'd guess they're not matching MS by discounting/helping setup dedicated servers, but this is rarely something that is public knowledge (unless you're trying to win a PR battle). I know they had some deal with Rackspace, but I think some are overplaying that (or thinking about it the wrong way maybe).

That's a big statement, and open to interpretation. At best (IMO), XBO benefits with more dedicated servers (less lag, more players in MP, etc.), arguably better AI, and possibly better physics (though certain kinds of physics from what I understand). I'm not sure that makes them equivalent in power (especially when people tend to associate "power" with more polygons, better IQ, better framerates, etc.), just able to offer different things (though PS4 can do the same things, but for the sake of argument...).

A lot of that power tends to only work for "always-online" style games as well.

Ugh. Well, at least those in the comments section seemed to realize how much nonsense was in that write-up.


The cloud is great, but the PR behind it to try to "even out" the consoles is just ridiculous IMO.

 

lmao, every generation it's fun to see what crap people will spew off from each side to say that their console is the best.

"____ does more gigaflops of graphics!"
"Oh yeah, what's a gigaflop?"
"SHUT UP ______ sucks!"

 

Maybe it is MS blowing smoke up my ass.

I do know that there are 300,000 servers...and that Im guessing that can only be a good thing. Maybe the PS4 is just as capable of everything cloud-wise, but my guess is that they would also be touting their cloud in order to keep up.

Instead, PS4's lead architect, Mark Cerney, talks about how there are implementation roadblocks...and he says they use the cloud for matchmaking, but that the cloud wont improve graphics. There are also no developers that Im aware of that have been gloating the use of the PS4 cloud for their games.

Meanwhile, the Forza team has pretty much talked about how offloading stuff to their cloud has allowed them to improve graphics for the game. The Titanfall team has been on record saying how the cloud has been amazing for their development of the game.

It just seems like, even though both systems have a cloud, the MS cloud seems to be doing more work for their system. I could be obviously be dead wrong, but until someone from the PS side starts mentioning a cloud in a positive light, I'll have to assume MS has a better grip of that situation.

I'll have to go back and watch the Carmack video, its like 2.5 hours long.

 

I have a friend that lost a lot of money trying to do this with the 360 when it came out.

Just so's ya know.

 

Not really...I never owned an original xbox...and Ive had a PS2 and PS3, along with a 360. Im not a fanboy by any means, but I do think the XBox One has an edge, imo. Everyone points to the specs of the PS4 as a reason why they are going in that direction, but I dont think the difference in specs will lead to a difference in gaming experience. I think the PS4 will have a couple titles that will be better than anything the XBox One will have...but I think as a whole, the gaming/home entertainment experience will be better on the XBox One.

I dont think the XBox One is the best...but I think it's the best for me based on what I want out of my console. I will most definitely own a PS4 as well, but just maybe a few months after I get the XBox. I actually dont even want the XBox on launch day, even though I have it reserved....I just want the Xbox when Titanfall is released, as that is when I will actually be doing most of my gaming. Until then, I'll be dedicating most of my gaming time to GTAV.

 

They don't have to keep up. They just say "you can do that on PS4 too, and we'll have a more powerful box, AWESOME LIGHTBAR APPLICATIONS, and KRATOS KRATOS KRATOS!" Since "cloud computing" isn't really a platform exclusive (the cloud is helping Titanfall on PC and 360 too...and eventually PS4 and maybe PS3), they can just focus on the things exclusive to their box.

Pretty much what they've done.

There is no such thing as PS4 cloud or XBO cloud. There is just the cloud, which is what Cerny was talking about. What he said applied to gaming for both XBO and PS4 (well...all in his opinion of course).

Cloud is indeed great, especially for certain games.

Though I'm skeptical about this really being a factor for the graphics in Forza...guess the "600% AI improvements" PR BS kind of does that.

That, or MS is pushing cloud talk because they don't want people to think their box is inferior. While everyone else is just treating it like it has always been there, and it isn't really that big of a deal (which is true IMO).

 

Scalpers are lame. I never buy consoles on launch so it doesn't affect me. I feel like all the big merchants should limit all launch day console purchases so you can't return them unless there is something wrong with the console. That'll curtail some of the scalpers since there is a risk of losing money.