Newsweek deserving of apology? Pentagon Confirms Koran Incidents

This was a great article. It was hilarious. This poor guy is very bitter. The funny thing about it is that he's getting worked up and has little grasp on the facts. First of all his perspective, like too many others, is us vs. Islam judging by some of the bits I've left in.

Then he goes on to try and only play up the most minor offenses at AG, and he totally ignores the other instances in AFghanistan. Because in those prisoners who had not been found guilty, and in at least one case were believed to not be terrorists were murdered. Somehow in his rant of bitterness he manages to ignore those facts.

All in all it was a great laugh, thanks.

 

How many Bibles sitting atop or in desk drawers were incinerated on 9/11? Anybody? Well, Qu 'rans for that matter....

 

Did you get the memo? It isn't about Christians vs. Muslims. It isn't a case of saying something was done to the bible therefore it is ok to treat the Koran badly. First of all the two books are held in a different light by the respective religions, but it shouldn't really matter since it isn't a contest.

 

The point is the hypocrisy about the firestorm created about the few occasions about either slight or gross mis-handling of the Qu 'ran. These Muslms whose Qu 'rans are being mis-handled are evil, malicious, malevolent terrorists. Even a bunch of Muslims will agree to that. If the Qu ran motivates them, a little manipulation of the Qu 'ran might rattle them.

We don't regard sacrificial death as they do, but it's okay for them to disregard our lives but not for us to disregard their holy book?

FB, I truly wish that a war could be fought with a neat little set of rules where no one got hurt and no one's feelings got trampled, but I haven't seen one yet.

Maybe if we made you Supreme Overlord of the Realm with all-encompassing powers it would happen? Hell, it would happen if any of us ascended to that omnipotent throne... but that ain't gonna happen.

 

How do you know the muslims who's holy books are being defaced are evil? Statistically there is almost a 1 in 2 chance that the person isn't a threat, but is still being held indefinitely with no chance to defend themselves. They often aren't told why they are being held and can't see a lawyer. And hearly half the time they aren't even deemed to be a threat.

The rule book has been in place and wars have been fought under that rule book. Yes the rules are sometimes broken, and any time that happens the person who broke the rules should be punished. It isn't a hard concept.

Now, I understand that most of the time people aren't defacing Islamic holy materials, and they are allowed to have them, and time to practice their religion. That is a good thing. But when incidents like this happen we shouldn't just say, "well it was only 1 in 100 we should just ignore it, and anyone who doesn't ignore it isn't supporting our military."

Most of the time airlines go out of their way to make flights safe. They bend over backwards. But if a mechanic accidentally forgets something and the plane crashes and people die, should we just ignore it because 99.9% of the pilots and airlines aren't making those kinds of mistakes?

That is what people are asking to happen here. When somebody makes a mistake, it isn't unpatriotic to be upset about it, and want something done to correct it. The rule of accountability shouldn't go out of the door because things are tough in a time of war. People in war time have jobs to do. When they don't do them correctly they should face the consequences. I'm not at all criticizing the folks who are doing their job correctly, but to ignore problems that do happen is insanity.

 

It's three different things to:

1. Ignore a problem
2. Attend to the problem proportionally
and
3. Hyperbolize the problem in such a way that more people will die just because the "problem" got publicized

 

and I thought I had seen everything in here.

come on folks....no need to get all up in arms about TJ's posts....when you saw the thread title, you KNEW what he was gonna say...didnt you?

I did

I'm sure someone could write a program that could pass for TJ easily....throw in random statements about not supporting the troops...random insults to liberals...a couple of lines devoted to telling us how bad the Muslims are.....and a few swipes at the liberal media...and wala!...a Tj post.

Its really quite easy....

RMT is right....TJ is sitting back...and having himself one helluva laugh over the responses he has generated...works every time dont it Conquistador?

 

Unfortunately, what we see supporters of this administration doing is 1, 1, and only 1.

 

Screw the Bibles and the Korans, in 9/11 real human beings were massacred, and that is more holy than any book.

From an article I read wayyyy back a few months after 9/11 took place, at least 400 Muslims were killed in the world trade center, they were people just like everyone else who were conducting business there and trying to make a living.

These terrorists don't care about that, they see them as mere "collatoral damage" that is acceptable in order to accomplish a larger, more important goal, whatever that it.

They are mass-murderers and criminals hiding behind religious rhetoric to attempt and justify their actions. But that doesn't erase the fact that they are merely a bunch of mass-murderers.

 

So rumor and uncredible evidence are enough to wage a war on but not enough for Newsweek to publish a short piece on..

 

How do we know TJ isn't a program?

 

umm....if he is...he does a fine job of appearing human to the naked eye...

 

That's just silly. Most of these "controversies" were already dealt with and are getting publicized much after the fact. That publicity is getting other people killed. What's that you used to talk about: The Ostrich Brigde?

 

That is what you think Mr. Anderson.

 

If by "dealt with," you mean "swept under the rug and hidden from the public eye," then you are spot on.

Nobody was "dealing with" the problems with interrogation, defacement of religion, or instances of torture and murder. Those of us who claimed that such things were taking place were berated, shouted down, and called all manner of names until these events were confirmed. Now we are being accused of "getting other people killed" by reporting the truth about what is going on. I wouldn't have believed such a thing was possible until now.

I say that if the truth is getting people killed, the people to blame are the ones who committed the acts (defacement, torture, murder) and the superiors who allowed the acts to happen and continue. Of course, in your world that would mean placing some blame on someone appointed by Bush so I guess that just isn't possible.

Ostrich Brigade indeed.

 

LEt me attempt to be ontopic for once...

I wanna try to get this straight...

Newsweek was bad for reporting aspects of this story?

and the Pentagon is bad for confirming some of the Newsweek report?

and the damned liberal media is bad for reporting the Pentagon's report?

So.....we should never discuss anything unless it is glorfifying Big Brother?


Im so confused...I think Ill go lay down...
wake me up in time for the 5 Minute Hate.

 

It sounds like you are on your way to being a good patriotic American, at last.

 

Damn andy, I didn't know that you were the reporter that broke this story.... Where are you going to put your Pulitzer Prize?