I think you will find that we agree or more issues than not...I read these threads and most of the time when I read your posts, I say to myself that I agree fully....I just dont bother to throw in the good ole one line "I agree" post since there isnt much I can add.. I actually agree that it isnt somethiing that should influence your voting one way or the other...I was just noticing that some like to pull that out when discussing Mr Bush's competency(or lack thereof) and thought to throw my opinion in as to wether or not I thought it was a valid point of criticism. I would imagine, conssidering what little I know about how the executivce branch actually works, that he had a whole bunch of people frantically working the radio/phones tryin to find out what was going on outside of that classroom...it would be common sense to think that imo...otherwise, why would a acting president have such a large retinue of people traveling with him (as most appear to have)? I dont even know why I am bothering acting as a sort of devil's advocate on this, since Im not a fan of Mr Bush at all...I resent what he did to the state school finance(higher education) since what he put into motion and Perrry continued has cost me a chance at a nice cushy IT job working for my local college district and on top of that, I read that Mr Bush is a proponent of offshoring our IT jobs, which also costs me since I cant find a bloody job doing what I love to save my life.......but all of that is for a different thread and a different time... Keep up the good fight FB....know that there are such as me that agree with most of what you say but are unable(or dont have time) to post about it...
It was a good movie and how every point of the (extremely extremely valid) movie is negated by something as minor as this is just r****ded.
franchise.. I see the argument you are making.. I'm just trying to put myself in that situation.. the fact that two hit the same buiding.. would make me think it's an attack on one building and it's already been attacked so there woudln't be quite the urgency to get up.. I don't think we could have all fathomed that the pentagon etc would be under attack as well.. because in the past etc its usually one thing coming under attack at a time. I think he has been decisive .. I also think it takes time to ready the vehicles for him to leave.. get all the right people on the phone etc.. I dont' see him having national security conferences in the hallway.. or him just sitting still in his car outside.. it probalbly took those minutes for them to begin to get his car etc ready..
franchise.. now that I see you're not trying to make it a huge issue.. I do see your point (even though I disagree, respectfully).. at first I thought you were trying to make it a big issue when it seemed you mentioned it as the most valid point of the movie etc...
Sorry about the confusion. I think it is 'a' valid issue, and not 'the most' valid issue. I was mainly referring to his appearance on Maher's show where that was the issue from the movie that they brought up.
No problem.. I should have read it more clearly.. He does seem to be getting a lot of publicity.. I was flipping through the stations and saw him on that best sports show period on fox.. although I didn't listen to it.. no desire to see him on a sports show!
outlaw .. didnt know that.. it really would take some time though.. you are looking at in some cases closing down highways etc at the time the president will be passing through.. having people control the traffic lights and all.. so him leaving unexpectedly would probably take some time to get organized..
at least from his trips to nashville and reading the articles about road closures and all.. it seems ilke a lot to get organized before he can leave anywhere
The point of this thread was that a liar is calling people liars. This liar in question is a leftist liar. The left doesn't want to talk about the fact that a leftist could have lied. They want to poo-poo and say "He's Rush"... Wow. What else is new? Why be surprised that the facts come out, and that the entire movie is spin based on falsehoods and lies obtained from an editorial opinion lauded as a headline? Wake me up when we uncover something we don't already know, gentlemen.
I think I'm as far to the left as anyone on this board, and I've said Moore twists and spins possibly to the point of lying. But so does Rush Limbaugh. I think comparing the two is definitely appropriate.
Why should they distance him? The film just broke the tickets record for documentary film, which must mean something about what the voters like.
I don't think you want a president making quick decisions. The president is the Chief Executive. He executes moreso than he decides. Making a decision includes consulting as many resources as he can about the situation at hand. That's why those lesser positions, agencies, and offices exist.
daoshi.. well first off they keep talking about how they don't want "bashing' going on everywhere in the election.. and seconly seems like with stories like this questioning the crediblity of moore.. be best to stay away from it.. if the democrats start endorsing moores movie etc.. that'd be bad because then they'd get torn apart because of things like this article is about
He didn't have to run screaming like a madman to stand up, excuse himself from the classroom, and go do his job which, IMO, should have been getting to AFI ASAP so that he could coordinate the response and find out what was actually happening. The Secret Service should have pulled him out of the classroom IMMEDIATELY or he should have had the sense to do it himself.
Yes, but how was he going to make any kind of decision without the necessary information? He could not possibly have thought that hearing "My Pet Goat" would get him up to speed on what was occurring in NY.
I didn't read anything about these 7 minutes in The 9/11 Report. Come to think of it, I didn't read anything about any of Moore's silly accusations in the 9/11 Report.
' Not all decisions need to be quick ones, but there are some that need to be made in that moment. For instance an airliner is hi-jacked and used to kill civilians. Another airliner is off it's flight plan. Do you scramble jets to bring down a civilian aircraft? Those decisions or other ones may need to be made very quickly.
Does anyone else find it funny that the party of Reagan and Schwarzenegger are now going to great lengths to make an issue about movies?
I'm not sure Moore lies, but makes sure the truth is distorted enough to fit his views. I think he once said his films were like op ed pieces, which does make sense. The thing I dont like about Michael Moore is that he's too overdramatic, and is a terrible debater. You're either good or bad, nothing in between. People like that, on both sides, should get out of politics, and quit making it personal.
