Colin Cowherd (I think that's his name) was talking about how trashy OU looks in comparison to a school like UT. At least one member in the national media disagrees with Texxx.
Anybody know what Bomar's options are at this point. I suspect he has to sit out at least one year before he could transfer or he has to drop down to Division II to play this year. Also doesn't he have to wait until his class finishes it's junior year before he could be NFL eligible? After Maurice Clarett I forgot how it goes exactly. Oh here's the wikipedia explanation: to turn professional Clarett attempted to enter the NFL Draft, challenging the NFL's rule that one must wait 3 years after graduating from High School to declare for the draft. Federal Judge Shira Scheindlin initially ruled that the NFL could not bar Clarett from participating in the 2004 NFL Draft. This decision was later overturned by the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit, and Clarett's higher appeal was refused by the Supreme Court. Clarett has been represented by California attorney David Kenner. Clarett lived with Kenner and claims that Kenner helped him straighten out his life. Kenner is the longtime attorney of Death Row Records CEO and controversial hip-hop kingpin Marion "Suge" Knight. In February 2005, he participated in the NFL Combine in Indianapolis. During a press conference, he uttered the phrase: "It's a humbling thing being humble." After running for a disappointing 4.72 and 4.82 seconds in the 40-yard dash, he refused to participate further, and was referred to as "Slow-Mo" by the sports media. Ohio State declined to allow him to take part in a private work-out for pro scouts in Columbus because it wanted to avoid a "circus" situation. Clarett was drafted on the first day of the 2005 NFL Draft with the 101st pick by the Denver Broncos in a widely unexpected move. Many experts felt that he would fall to the 6th or 7th round if he was drafted at all. Despite the risk that the Broncos took on him, he failed to impress in training camp. He showed up at 248 pounds (at least 20 pounds overweight), was slow to return from an injury, had run-ins with coaches and was even found drinking alcohol in the team's weight room. He was placed on waivers on August 28, 2005. [1] After clearing waivers, Clarett's future became uncertain. The Miami Herald reported in September that Clarett is already $1 million in debt from legal fees for his fight with the NFL and other costs. They reported that Clarett turned down a traditional signing bonus of $413,000 in his original contract with Denver because Kenner wanted incentives that would pay Clarett if he became a star. When contacted by The Herald, Kenner said: "I'm not at liberty to discuss any of those matters. But thank you for the call." Kenner then hung up. A source close to Clarett is reported to have stated: "It's ridiculous how badly this thing is screwed up. In the minds of the people around Maurice, he was going to walk in and be a superstar. They kept filling his head with that idea, and he thought he was already the man before he did anything." According to the Wheeling News-Register, Clarett was in talks to play for the Steubenville Stampede. The Stampede are in the North Division of the American Indoor Football League. The AIFL began its second year of league play in February 2006. According to Jim Terry, Manager of the Stampede, "I have been in contact with [Clarett's] agent and he's expressed interest with us... Clarett is hungry and has something to prove. He has a chip on his shoulder and wants to show he can still play." Since that report, however, no further developments have taken place. Since then there have been talks about Clarett playing for the semipro Eastern Indoor Football league team, Youngstown Hitmen, coached by the same Jim Terry. [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_Clarett
are you treated like a transfer after being kicked off? that would be doubly harsh imo. I understand to get kicked off you've usually done something wrong but I don't believe you should have to wait a year.
I think if he broke division rules he can't play any division. So he can go NAIA or play baseball. He still has an OU scholarship for academic reasons but won't play football, although he won't be treated too well on that campus. He's screwed, Oklahoma hates and Texas already did.
Looked like that freaking 6 on the Wonderlic really ruined VY didn't it? Does anyone care how Shaq did on the SATs? Not really. If kids want a great education, they'll go to Rice. If kids want a shot at a National Championship and a shot at the next level, they'll go to UT, OU, USC, Miami, tOSU, Duke, UNC, etc... As far as stories regarding Taylor's drug bust being bigger than anything that has happend academically...how many stories about academics get written for any school? People want to read what's new and current, there isn't a whole lot going on academically that is worth reading/writing about. How many articles regarding academics were written about Rice during their baseball run? Newspapers put out articles people want to read, period. It has nothing to do the integrity of the University or the athletics program. I'm not going to bash Duke University as a whole because some athletes got too wild at a party. Just like you wouldn't want people stereotyping Rice athletes/university when they got caught cheating.
very level headed post. to sit here and insuate that ut has any more problems than the next "school" is ridiculous. and its not just public schools. to sit here and still harp on vy's wonderlic score when the dude got drafted third as a NFL qb is totally absurd. I'm sure chris simms scored well on his, and he was crying on draft day because his stock fell for legit concerns. if you're still trying to clown VY on acedemics after he just became a millionaire, he may haved scored the six, but you're the dumbass.
All major conference teams do things like this will their players. Its a symptom of problems with the system, not any one school. Players bring in millions to these schools. A stud player is worth millions to these schools. Their payment is a free education that many of them don't use or fulfill and a TINY chance at making it to the NFl. Pretty good trade off for the schools themselves. In response, the NCAA has to crack down hard on any offenses they find, not matter how small, because its so easy to get away with it anyways. So when they do find a violation they have to throw the book at the player and often the school. I don't know what the answer to the problem is. A set stipend for all NCAA scholarship athletes so they are less likey to be getting money elsewhere? Maybe its just part of the package, and its set by the NCAA? Maybe take the student out of student athlete and make the players officially what they really are anyways, minor league athletes...just use the school structures to support the minor league system. The player goes to A&M, UT, or OU only to play football, give them an extra year of eligibility, and pay them a salary. They don't go to class, they don't get a scholarship, or whatever. Have the "golden parachute" to the athlete be a scholarship AFTER their eligibilty is up if they don't make it to the next level.
That's a dumb way to look at it. Has there been an article in the papers related to Rice academics as big as the Ramonce story? Yeah, exactly.
he has to be in good standing with the NCAA, so he would have to repay the money he earned. i hate the NCAA. they make so much money off these kids and they aren't even really allowed to have jobs. hell, if you won't let them work then at least give them a stipend so these sort of situations aren't as common.
There are definitely problems with collegiate athletics, but you can't have kids making $18,000 for 5 hours of work. As for as stipends, I think it further perpetuates what Donnymost calls "the have and have nots." Obviously schools like USC, UT, Miami, Ohio State, etc...are gonna have more resources than even other major D-1 programs like Oregon or West Virginia. I studied collegiate athletics quite a bit in college, I understand that there are some inherent problems in it, but I don't think paying players is the solution.
well I've posted this in a couple of threads and i'm gonna post it again in here. the nfl and the ncaa should work together and treat these athletes like interns. nfl teams could have some kind of drafting process for these kids, the kids could pick the school they like, and the nfl teams could help pay for these kids educations, even bring them into camps during the summer. they could bring them up whenever they wanted or never bring them up. and the kid has made some money and been in school and even gotten a shot at the nfl, and the schools don't have to pay.
lol...are you implying Bomar's 'job' was legit? the way you worded your statement makes it sound like that, correct me if I'm wrong
Most of these kids, even the recruited and paid ones, don't have a future in the NFL. And they wouldn't be considered amateurs if an NFL team was providing them with any sort of money.
I don't mean to say bomar's job was legit. my understanding of student athletes on scholarships is that they are not allowed to have jobs during the school year, or something to that effect.
well I understand the amateur/pro situation, that's why I wrote the nfl and ncaa should get together. obviously that would be a hurdle eliminated. that's an ncaa rule, its not the law. it can be eliminated. your other concern i admit I thought about. not every kid would be looked at by the nfl. so maybe those kids get scholorships from the school. I don't know, I'm just throwing an idea out there.
Student athletes are allowed to have jobs, it's just that few have the time to have one along with school and practice.
I've always said that if I were a student athlete I'd wait tables. Then some bigshot booster can come in with a huge posse, order the the most expensive dinner + wine + Crystal and leave you a nice 20-40% tip. I think this is nice and legal.
