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News from ESPN Insider on the Jazz-Rockets Trade

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rockets34Legend, Oct 1, 2003.

  1. Timing

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    I suppose you might be right that the contract wasn't the ace we might think it is, none of us would really be in a position to know that for sure I guess. I do think the value of that contract would continue to rise from here until the trade deadline though. We don't know now what teams might have fallen flat during the season and what players might have been on the market for expiring contracts. We'll wait and see how the exception plays out though and then we'll really know if it was about pocketing money.
     
  2. Deckard

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    Then we'll find out if the bottom line was to help the team using the exception on a future deal or... the bottom line.
     
  3. DCkid

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    Far superior? Give me a break. Posey doesn't do anything good enough to be called superior to anyone. He's fast and a good defender, not a great defender like some people claim. Those are the only notable things about him.

    He's a terrible outside shooter, mediocre ball handler, inconsistent, a poor finisher, unexperienced, and has no offensive creativity or savvy.

    So, please explain to me how Posey is superior to Jim Jackson? Is it just because you think he might improve?
     
  4. RIET

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    He's superior because teams actually want him and for more money.

    This is not my opinion. This is a fact.

    As a Rocket, James Posey shot better than Cuttino Mobley or Steve Francis. That's what happens when you actually have teammates that can play.

    Posey is also great filling the lanes on the break, is a very good defense player, and has very good rebounding skills. He's also a 100% team player.

    Jim Jackson is not a good defender. He's a competent scorer but does not offer great outside range and he shoots way too much. He's also been known to be a disruptive force every since his days in Dallas.

    If Jim Jackson was a better player than James Posey, he would not had to sign the minimum salary the last 2 years. The Rockets couldve signed him last year for nothing. He was sitting at home before Sacramento called and gave him the minimum.

    I have every GM in the NBA on this one.
     
  5. gr8-1

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    I had a Spanish teacher at UT who was the same way.
     
  6. DCkid

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    The only reason Posey is worth more is because he's younger and because of the p-word. That's it. Posey hasn't proven anything yet.
     
  7. francis 4 prez

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    you just embellished all of posey's attributes and downplayed all of jackson's while pointing out jackson's faults.


    you tell us about posey's shooting (which was bad from 3) then say jackson doesn't offer great outside range. jackson shot 47% and 45% on 3's the last 2 years. one on a good offensive team, and the 47% came on a terrible offensive team, miami while playing a heavy load of 34 mpg.

    posey has no handles, this is not up for argument and he made many many poor decisions (worse than mobley and francis).

    posey is good at defense, though more as a disruptor than one on one guy, but every article that's been posted since the trade has also called jackson an above average defender. i don't know why they'd make that up.

    and even though i never liked posey, the one thing i was worried about was losing his rebounding. but amazingly, jackson had the higher rebounds per minute last year (4.1 in 21 min vs 4.8 in 28.4 when posey was on the rockets).

    so we're getting a guy who has hit 3's better than rice the last 2 seasons, is called a good defender, and who rebounds at least as well as posey. the only possible reason he doesn't get offers is off the court stuff b/c it certainly doesn't have to do with production, where he seems to beat posey in most categories.
     
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    NOBODY, I mean NOT ONE single person on our team makes worse on the court decisions than your boy Steve!
     
  9. RIET

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    So typical. Youre using bogus stats to support your claim.

    Jim Jackson's 3 point shooting was high because he rarely shot any. He's a caeer 35.3% 3 point shooter while Posey is 31.4%.

    Yes that's a huge difference.

    Jackson does not have consistent outside range and neither does Posey. However, it's a joke to say Posey is a bad shooter while Jackson is a good shooter when as a Rocket, Posey shot almost 44% while adjusting to new teammates and in a totally different role.

    As far as rebounding. Part of the reason Posey's rebounding was off was because 1/2 the time he was forced to stand at the 3 point line doing nothing just like Eddie Griffin and the other 4 players on the court who were watching Yao, Steve or Cat make theier one on one moves.

    Posey's greatest strength is running the court, a talent completely wasted on this team. There is not a single person who would disagree that we needed to run more. Jim Jackson will not help in this category.

    You have a 26 year old player in his prime who significantly improved his fg% and was completely willing to play within the confines of the offense even if it meant shutting down his best attributes.
     

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