Newest Conservative hero Kanye: slavery was a choice

The choice is always death is what I'm saying. Even if slave lives were more valuable economically than Jews (from what you're saying). It boils down to killing yourself before you're killed by your captors. A slave refusing to work is a death sentence.

 

Ok, educate me

 

If that is what he meant then that’s:
1) A sweeping generalization
2) A terrible way of making that point.

But Kanye isn’t noted for his intelligence so....

 

The best way to learn is through independent study, but in general, what would you like to know?

 

I gave him the benefit of the doubt that he was talking about victim mentality in today's culture, particularly blacks as it relates to slavery. But his clarifying remarks make his intention known.

He added : "My point is for us to have stayed in that position even though the numbers were on our side means that we were mentally enslaved."

He appears to be trying to make some super woke philosophical point about free will or whatever but the collateral damage is that he basically says slaves chose to be/stay enslaved. Which is utter nonsense at best and hateful garbage at worst.

 

As well as the intectually dishonest narrative of “Blacks selling/buying other Blacks “

 

If most of the slaves taken from Africa were from the western region do you think the statistics of the trans-Atlantic slave trade are accurate? As in did some African migrate east or south to evade enslavement? And if so how were the imperialist able to maintain West Africa as their hub for African slaves? What would be a more accurate number of slaves taken that actually survived the journey to America? And of the slaves in America pre 1800, what would you deem as an accurate percentage were not black? Percentage wise, how many slave owners were not white?

 

It's an opinion - An many pro blacks follow him and agree with him as well - So sense his opinion that some people believe also -are dumb also? Also ******** on his race - from all accounts he is well known in the black community an have done a lot in the community....

 

Look him up good sir

 

The difference of course is that one would be choosing death productively and the other would be choosing death to benefit their captors.

Again, i compared the choice not to work to choosing not to breathe, i fully understand what the immediate consequences would have been

 

If they chose to work after that then yes, on some level they chose slavery over death. Again though choosing death isn't a simple choice so it shouldn't be framed as if it is

 

Quite a few were taken from Central Africa as well, with the affected range stretching as far south as present day Angola. I’ve seen a wide range of statistics on those taken, ranging from 10 million to 200+ million. I don't think the extremes on either end are accurate because I don’t see the population of the continent being high enough to support the 200 million and the 10 million comes from estimates from official, liscensed slave traders ( ship manifests, insurance records etc. ). There were many illegal slave traders who would attempt to sneak in Africans from the continent after the international slave trade was outlawed ( this was the case of Sengbe Pieh aka Joseph Cinque’ and those on the Amistad as well as Oluade Kossla aka Cudjoe Lewis and his companions brought to the US around 1860 right before the Civil War. )
So it’s hard for scholars to pinpoint an exact number....if I had to guess I’d say somewhere around 50-100 million but an accurate number will likely never be known.

I have heard that as the trading got more extensive, many people moved further inland to avoid capture. European slave traders maintained a steady supply of slaves by providing desired goods (guns, fine China, etc) to the local slave traders in exchange for captives. The specific types of goods desired depended on the region, with some kingdoms actively resisting and attacking slave caravans.

As far as the race of the slaves in America before 1800, it would depend on when you looked specifically. If you looked before 1530ish-1600s, the bulk would be Amerindian as they were the first group enslaved by Europeans in the Americas. If you looked closer to the late 1600s-1700s the majority would be black.

 

whether you agree with him or not I hate how the media is taking it out of context and purposely misleading people to make it seem like Kanye said actual slaves chose to be one.

 

I agree. What I don't understand is why Africans in the Congo allowed the Belgians to oppress them and didn't rise up?



I mean how could a child allow the Belgians to amputate their limbs? They should of stood up and fought back.



How could this father let them cut off the hands and feet of his children and not do anything?


Yeah if only people (in this case Africans) would have stood up to their slave masters and done something about.

Same thing with the Jews in Western Europe.

Come to think of it, I think that girl I saw in the short skirt in downtown Chicago should have known better. I mean she should have known better than to dress nice like that, she was just asking to be raped.