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Newer Rumor: Amare to Cavs?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Saado, Feb 13, 2009.

  1. Saado

    Saado Member

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    Per the Real Cavs Fans board, one of the big time insiders had this to say.

    http://www.realcavsfans.com/showthread.php?t=17335

    Looking like a pretty legit possibility and definitely scary for the rest of the league.
     
  2. Egghead

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    whats up with JJ Hickson getting all this attention? How is he suppose to have crazy potential? His numbers don't look to good,whats so good about him?
     
  3. Rox_fan_here

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    I'll see your Cav's "Insider," and raise you a Yahoo Sports article.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_y...g=aw-stoudemirecavs021309&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

    Cavs’ bid for Stoudemire falls flat
    By Adrian Wojnarowski, Yahoo! Sports
    3 hours, 39 minutes ago

    Buzz up!12 votes PrintMore From Adrian WojnarowskiSources: Heat land Raptors' O'Neal Feb 13, 2009 Stoudemire talks include three-team trade Feb 13, 2009
    PHOENIX – Believing that Amare Stoudemire could make the difference with winning an NBA title and ultimately keeping LeBron James, the Cleveland Cavaliers made a bid to the Phoenix Suns for the All-Star power forward, two league sources familiar with the offer said Friday.


    Cleveland general manager Danny Ferry offered the expiring contract of Wally Szcerbiak, rookie J.J. Hickson and a first-round pick for Stoudemire earlier in the week, sources said. Anderson Varejao was mentioned in a possible scenario too, sources said.

    Nevertheless, the proposal has generated little enthusiasm out of Suns GM Steve Kerr.




    When asked about the Cavaliers’ interest in Stoudemire on Friday, Ferry texted to Yahoo! Sports, “No discussions at this time.”

    Odds are, the Cavaliers and Suns would need to find a third team to get Stoudemire in the frontcourt with James.

    As the Cavaliers try to find more size to compete with the Boston Celtics and Los Angeles Lakers for a title, league sources say they’re intrigued with Los Angeles Clippers center Marcus Camby. League executives say that the Clippers have been actively trying to unload payroll.

    As the Miami Heat left the Stoudemire market with Friday’s trade with the Toronto Raptors, the Cavs are still hoping that the Suns’ inclination is to trade Stoudemire out of the Western Conference.


    Chicago is still considered a strong contender in the Eastern Conference, but one source familiar with the team’s discussions says there hasn’t been a lot of back-and-forth with the Suns in the past 48 hours.

    League executives still believe Memphis can be a major factor should owner Michael Heisley relent on taking back the money on Stoudemire’s contract. Sacramento has made a series of overtures on Stoudemire – with discussions at the ownership level. Also, the Kings have the intriguing asset of a pick that could turn into the No. 1 selection in the June draft. The Suns are talking with multiple teams, but still haven’t been blown away with any offer for Stoudemire.


    The Cavaliers haven’t heard back from the Suns since midweek, sources say. For the Suns, Cleveland’s offer is flawed. Varejao is an excellent defender and rebounder, but struggles to score. His value is much greater on a good team than a rebuilding program. Hickson was the Cavaliers’ first-round pick out of North Carolina State, a talented but raw 20-year-old rookie power forward. He’s still far from an impact player Also, the Cavs’ draft pick will be late in the first round.


    What still worries rivals NBA executives about Cleveland’s ability to work a deal for Stoudemire is the close relationship between Ferry and Kerr. They’re extremely tight and alumni of the San Antonio Spurs have a history of doing deals amongst themselves. For now, the Cavaliers seem content to let Phoenix solicit offers between now and Thursday’s trade deadline, and see if somehow they could revisit the Stoudemire derby. Most teams are wondering just how desperate the Suns are to lower payroll and how dramatically that will affect the caliber of talent and salary they’ll bring back for Stoudemire.
     
  4. Saado

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    Yeah, I actually read that article too, but I'm pretty sure that post by the insider is more recent than the article. Although who really knows. Nothing will be announced over the weekend, will just have to wait and see, but I think it's a very real possibility.
     
  5. shastarocket

    shastarocket Contributing Member

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    Personally, i don't get it either, but here is his draft report:

    STRENGTHS:

    - Ability to get to free throw line
    - Go-to scoring mentality
    - Back to basket scoring
    - Excellent hands
    - Footwork/Post-moves
    - Energy/Intensity
    - Potential
    - Work ethic
    - Ability to finish around basket
    - Ability to finish through contact
    - Athleticism
    - Coordination
    - Explosiveness
    - Frail frame
    - Physical specimen
    - Quick off feet
    - Strength
    - Wingspan
    - Excellent rebounder

    WEAKNESSES:

    - Decision making
    - Versatility
    - Ball-handling skills
    - Ability to face the basket
    - Left hand
    - Man amongst boys?
    - Commitment to playing defense
    - Defensive awareness
    - Did not win in college
    - Focus
    - Fundamentals
    - Not ready to contribute immediately
    - Passing out of post
    - Poor assist/turnover ratio
    - Size for position
    - Undersized
    - 3-point range
     
  6. Saado

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    JJ's definitely a good young player. He's only 19, but plays well enough to get significant minutes on a championship contending team. It does feel kind of weird though, considering the guy on the other end is Amare.
     
  7. shastarocket

    shastarocket Contributing Member

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    Honestly, Thadeus Young seems like a much better player...btw you seem to be defensive about the Cavs, what are you clos et Cavs fan or something? Was the "insider" you, lol ;)
     
  8. Saado

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    Haha. My first team was the Rockets. It was Hakeem that got me interested in basketball altogether and I've followed the rockets closely ever since, but I've also lived in Ohio all my life. Been a Cavs fan through the days of Ricky Davis, D Miles, all of that. Luckily, we're seeing better days now.
     
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    Amare Stoudemire To Cleveland
    Carl Landry to Cleveland

    Jason Richardson To Houston
    (A pick or two from either team)

    Ron Artest to Phoenix
    Wally Szczerbiak to Phoenix
    JJ Hickson to Phoenix

    Trade Machine Approved

    Rockets get the shooting guard they need
    Cavaliers get the power forward they need
    Phoenix gets about 20 mil in cap relief after this season
     
  11. shastarocket

    shastarocket Contributing Member

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    Rox need a SG who can really get to the basket and be good passer. For some reason, Jaso Richardson comes across as a guy who would take bad shots and not look to Yao first. This is Yao's team, not the PHX Suns
     
  12. zantabak1111

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    wow JRich for Artest and Landry? Ok nm but as far as hickson yesterday someone on espn.com wrote an article on the rookies and said the more he sees him the more he sees a young karl malone. ive never seen him play but Im interested now.
     
  13. roslolian

    roslolian Rockets Only Fan

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    Um We get Jrich but lose both Artest and Landry. PHX loses Stoudemire basically cap space, and Cavs get both Stoudemire and Landry for Serbiak and Hickson? How is this not the three team equivalent of the Gasol signing a year ago?
     
  14. baller4life315

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    LeBron + Amare is a pretty scary combination. It's only a matter of time before the league gets a whiff of LeBron playing alongside a major star. And no, Mo Williams doesn't count.
     

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