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[New Yorker] Science and Objectivity in the Corporatocracy Era

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by rhadamanthus, Feb 10, 2014.

  1. rhadamanthus

    rhadamanthus Contributing Member

    Nov 20, 2002
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    Fascinating/amusing/depressing article on one scientist's battle against a corporate juggernaut.

    It's a long read so I expect a number of "TLDR" posts from those folks who lack a developed attention span. Still, for those who enjoy a good read it's worth it. Excerpts:

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  2. rocketsjudoka

    rocketsjudoka Contributing Member

    Jul 24, 2007
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    Very interesting article and you see a lot of this type of stuff in the debates involving global warming, GMO, fracking or almost any issue where there is a lot of money at stake.
  3. SwoLy-D

    SwoLy-D Contributing Member

    Jul 20, 2001
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    In before Liu Only Fans and Liu Only Haters derail the thread. :eek:
  4. glynch

    glynch Contributing Member

    Dec 1, 2000
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    Excellent article. A stinging indictment of much "science" funded by for profit corporations.
  5. dmc89

    dmc89 Member

    Apr 8, 2009
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    Great article. It's sad seeing the little discussion it's generated. This is a basketball BBS, but one always hopes.

    I have had extensive experience (through my career and friends/families) in dealing with public relations, search engine optimization, in-house counsel, university research grants, Congressional lobbying, and PSYOPS. Too few Americans are familiar with the above; few appreciate the use of disinformation/misinformation, and how it's executed in our modern world of a consolidated infotainment-complex. Those who speak on it are written off as conspiracy loons.

    Observe the D&D. No one agrees on the facts. Topics like anthropogenic climate change, income/wealth distribution, income tax policies, and firearm regulations are some examples. One side lives in a parallel reality created by powerful, monied interests. Google searches and Wikipedia say one thing, some blogs and Twitter say another, etc. By creating an ocean of information, it's easy to overwhelm the common man seeking clarity with limited time and passion for the subject.

    Tragically, a self-fulfilling prophecy occurs when we all become too cynical. When the public loses faith in civil, intelligent discussions, it turns away from these issues. It focuses on making a living, keeping its head down, and hoping for the best. Our departure from debate and the civic process gives more power and legitimacy to the special interests (and their ignorant/willing supporters).
  6. Rocket River

    Rocket River Member

    Oct 5, 1999
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    When you cannot agree on the baseline facts
    hard to get to an agreement of truth

    Rocket River
  7. rimbaud

    rimbaud Contributing Member
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    Nov 3, 1999
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    The article did a nice job building up the fight and laying a little background but then at the end kind of teetered off and seemed to distance itself from Haye's positions (ending an article about the dangers of believing in an ambiguous manner). Really none of this should be surprising but I wish a little ore had been developed about the internal memos and what they actually indicated.

    I liked the one guy's performance review that listed "influencing the EPA" in his job description. Sounds like fun!

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