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New York Times: Hillary Clinton illegally used private email for all State Dept. business

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  1. justtxyank

    justtxyank Member

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    That's fine but you didn't answer my inquiry.

    Do you believe someone who has business success can't be dangerous?
     
  2. Bobbythegreat

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    Yeah, me too, and that's the problem. I'm looking at the loony tunes things he keeps saying and how much of an infant he comes across as any time he is met with opposition and I see someone that has no business in a position of power.



    He inherited a company and a fortune.....what has he done that impresses you? Not managed to have every single endeavor go bankrupt?

    I guess that just doesn't impress me as much as it impresses you.
     
  3. TheresTheDagger

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    With our checks and balances? Not really.

    But anyone can be dangerous...that's part of being human...heck even you. Even...gasp...HILLARY!
     
  4. justtxyank

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    I think you aren't grasping my question. You used his business success to say that he can't be the person the media portrays him as because he's been too successful in business.

    Do you believe someone who has been successful in business is incapable of being "loony tunes" to use your word? Would you essentially be comfortable with any successful business person holding presidential power?
     
  5. TheresTheDagger

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    That's fine. At least its an honest issue with Trump. The first one I've seen you give by the way. I see it as "candidate Trump" and believe he will return to normal Trump once in the White House if he gets there.

    Come on man. He didn't inherit a multi billion dollar real estate empire with worldwide name brand recognition. He built that up. He had a head start sure but its worth WAAAY more money then he started with.

    I understand you hate the guy but lets not be intellectually dishonest.
     
  6. TheresTheDagger

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    I think you aren't grasping my answer.

    I think any person is capable of being "looney tunes". Do I think someone could build a business empire and have so many people supporting him from that empire if he was looney tunes? No.

    Would I be comfortable with any successful business person holding presidential power? Would depend on the person.

    Would you be uncomfortable with any successful business person holding presidential power?
     
  7. SWTsig

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    And that makes you at best naive and at worst completely stupid and dangerously partisan. This has NOTHING to do with HRC. this has everything to do with the fact that trump is a narcissisict, megalomaniacal lunatic with limited intelligence, a dubious track record of being a "successful businessman" (tax returns don't seem to bother you) with zero experience in anything even related to governance or policy. Oh ya on top of the fact that his comments regarding immigrants, women, veterans, the disabled etc etc are downright deplorable. Literally the words of someone who deserves no defense, yet he has legions of goons (including the KKK and Russians mind you) who willingly do so.

    Sorry, I'm done trying to rationalize with the cadre of dipshits who support this snake oil salesman. Thought it couldn't get any worse than palin but the conservative base in this country have proven time and time again that party > country. Away with you and your ilk.
     
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  8. justtxyank

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    There is a disconnect in logic there.

    Anyone can be looney tunes.
    Someone like trump can't be.
    Business experience and checks and balances prove he can't be dangerous.
    That statement doesn't apply universally.

    Just say you like trump.

    People who use the business argument to argue for trump without appearing to argue for him wouldn't turn around and vote for George soros or warren buffet or any other extremely liberal businessman that have been wildly more successful than trump
     
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  9. TheresTheDagger

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    Yes because Hillary Clinton just SCREAMS country over party.

    Spare me.
     
  10. TheresTheDagger

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    Complete bullshit. ^^^

    Anyone can be looney tunes. True...I did say that.
    Someone like Trump can't be. Never said that...I said in this case I don't think he is.
    Business experience and checks and balances prove he can't be dangerous. Never said that either. Nothing "proves" he can't be dangerous...just like you can't prove you're not dangerous.
    That statement doesn't apply univerally. Which statement? What are you talking about?

    I actually not a huge Trump fan. He was my 2nd to last choice among the Republican candidates (behind Cruz whom I loathe). Don't believe me? Do a check of my comments on him during the primaries.

    Having said that, I prefer my candidate to be honest and up front with who they are to my face rather than run around and present themselves as something they aren't like Clinton. That's WAY more dangerous to me.

    Trump says stupid thingsat times and I wish he didn't. Clinton DOES corrupt things all the time and that is much more dangerous to me. Why is this so hard to understand?

    Project much? Please....tell me more about who I support or how I consider a candidate. I'm fascinated.
     
  11. justtxyank

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    It's insane to me to see someone say they like that trump at least shows you who he is and doesn't pretend to be someone he isn't. Flat out hilarious. there isn't even a point in discussing beyond that statement as it represents a clear decision to ignore truth to just support him.
     
  12. FranchiseBlade

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    That might make more sense if Trump was actually up front and honest about who he is. He claims he doesn't settle lawsuits, he's settled plenty of law suits. He's made all sorts of claims about the kind of person he is in regards to how he treats other people, yet we've seen loads of evidence to the contrary whether it's women, minorities, etc.

    There are some parts of who Trump is that he either is being upfront about, or can't hide even if he wanted to, and those parts show him to be unqualified for the job. Trump is a fraud and phony just like his University. People with ethics like that, don't suddenly change for the better once they get more power.
     
  13. Buck Turgidson

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    More than any other election this one hurts me personally.

    I love, LOVE a few of my relatives (and that won't change) but I cannot look at them the same anymore.
     
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    Show me where I said I "Like" Trump. That exact word. You can't because I never said that. I said in the choice between Trump and Clinton I prefer Trump.

    My EXACT words were : I'm not a huge Trump fan.

    You seem to have an issue with me liking Trump more than Clinton. Why don't you ever defend Clinton in ANY of this conversation. Because you can't...so instead you attack me instead of defending your candidate. Speaks volumes.

    Meanwhile...

    As opposed to ignoring a truth just to support Hillary?

    Hypocrite much?
     
  15. TheresTheDagger

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    LOL. I'm sure they feel the same way.
     
  16. TheresTheDagger

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    He's running for office. I dare say anyone running for office has a past to explain away, including you and including me.

    You seem to think I'm defending Trump. I'm doing no such thing. What I AM doing is making the same choice you made between 2 very flawed candidates. You don't agree with my choice...that's fine. But saying there is no logic behind my choice is intellectually dishonest. Clinton is the worst Presidential candidate of my lifetime IMHO...even worse than Nixon. That's how much I loathe her. And I have a lot of reason to.

    He certainly has his issues. All things considered, I wish there was a different Republican running. :(
     
  17. Buck Turgidson

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    The 40 Fox Newsers and the 20 Heathen Liberals just don't talk much politics anymore in each other's company. Thanks for the "LOL" and the the "feels" but we're ok without you.

    It's amazing how you can get along with most anyone when you leave politics and religion out of the equation.
     
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  18. calurker

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    I'm just gonna pick a random post of yours. Serious question: even between "the lesser of 2 evils", why do you support someone supported by Putin and the Chinese Communist Party? What do you have in common with Russia and China? I seriously want to know.

    I heard China also has a few walls of their own, throws dissidents in jail as well as any lawyers who dare do defend them, oppresses religious freedom and shuts down TV programs they don't like.

    In other words, they were Trump before Trump became a thing.

    Maybe you should consider immigrating there. Or to Russia. Like Snowden.

    Will you send in your application on November 9th?
     
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  20. Mr.Scarface

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    I think Trump starting to run for president to help the "Trump Brand". As he started to lead the primaries, he realized that he could help the Trump business by shaping regulations as President. Trump doesn't give a damn about anyone but himself and his "brand".
     

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