New York Times: Hillary Clinton illegally used private email for all State Dept. business

Are you serious? Reading is fundamental... Let me say this a third time. You may not send ANY classified information over a personal email. Period. Zero. Zip. Nada. That is a CLEAR violation of of a number of statutes.

When sending over a government email the email must be marked as classified with the appropriate classification level. But that's irrelevant since Hillary never set up a government email account.

Hillary Could Be Prosecuted For Mishandling CLASSIFIED Information

The State Department could not definitively say that the personal email account used by Hillary Clinton to conduct state department business did not transmit classified information.

The House Select Committee on Benghazi has said it will subpoena all of Hillary’s emails regarding the 2012 attack. If any of those end up containing classified information, Hillary could be in trouble.

In fact, Hillary could be prosecuted if she emailed classified information, experts tell The Daily Caller News Foundation.

Patrick G. Eddington, Policy Analyst in Civil Liberties and Homeland Security at the Cato Institute, told The Daily Caller News Foundation that Hillary at least violated Executive Order 13526 and possibly 18 U.S.C. Sec. 793(f) of the federal code if she sent or stored classified information on her personal email.

“By using a private email system, Secretary Clinton violated the Federal Records Act and the State Department’s Foreign Affairs Manual regarding records management, and worse, could have left classified and top secret documents vulnerable to cyber attack,” Cause of Action Executive Director Dan Epstein said in an email to reporters. “This is an egregious violation of the law, and if it were anyone else, they could be facing fines and criminal prosecution.”

http://dailycaller.com/2015/03/04/hillary-could-be-prosecuted-for-sending-classified-information-through-her-private-email/

As usual, no matter what information is posted or presented as evidence, you will stick your fingers in your ears with a hearty Lalalalalalalal to follow. I understand this. But I will put it out there for others to see anyway.

 

I just posted some concrete info. You refuse to see it. Par for the course for the libtards here. (I refuse to call you "liberals", as you are anything but that in reality - I am far more a classical liberal than you progressive socialists ever were)

Like I said, I don't expect you to see reality for what it is. It violates your world view and therefore must be ignored and shunned. But it's there for the rest of the world to see.

 

The head of each Federal agency shall make and preserve records containing adequate and proper documentation of the organization, functions, policies, decisions, procedures, and essential transactions of the agency and designed to furnish the information necessary to protect the legal and financial rights of the Government and of persons directly affected by the agency’s activities. (44 U.S. Code § 3101)

All employees must be aware that some of the variety of the messages being exchanged on E-mail are important to the Department and must be preserved; such messages are considered Federal records under the law. (5 FAM [Foreign Affairs Manual] 443.1)

 

I don't know, was that from the NYT piece? That was a statement that wasn't followed up with what regulation or law was actually broken. And I recall it was later found that the NYT must be referring to an updated law to the Federal Records Act that Obama signed late last year. Clinton was no longer secretary of state then. Prior to that, I think there was no law she actually broke (or any government officials that uses private email before her.)

 

So where's the clear violation here? She DID preserve the information (as far as we know). The real change that makes what she did now against policy came in 2014.

 

You lefties can at least take comfort in the fact that, while Hillary almost certainly did violate the law, she will not be prosecuted by Loretta Lynch's Justice Department. Since she is the only possible nominee on the Dem side in 2016 she will be protected at all costs. The furor will eventually die down, the media will suddenly remember that as Democrats their duty is to protect the nominee, not to find the truth, and this will get swept under the rug.

Book it.

 

Not ignored, just viewed critically with an open stance allowing new information to enter and be considered. Would you allow such a possibility that she is innocent? Answer that honestly and maybe you can gain some insight into reality.

 

She stated today that she destroyed some emails. How do you know which ones? Oh, we just have to trust her I guess...

Also, Trey Gowdy noted that there are several months-long gaps in what she turned over to State and to his committee. Are we to believe that she went for several months without using email during those periods? When she visited Libya after Qadaffi's fall there were zero records during that visit, even though she was photographed using her Blackberry during the trip. Are we to believe that she sent and received no emails during that important trip?

Again... You really have to try hard to be so gullible on this one. I know you want to believe that she's innocent, but it truly does strain credulity to believe that at this point. Especially when she blatantly lied at her own press conference about using multiple devices... the supposed reason she did all of this.

 

Lol seriously? It seems to me that you are being decidedly UN-critical in yor analysis. Given what we already know it's virtually impossible that she is telling the truth about this. Again, caught on camera...

You really have to be near brain death to believe this. Even most of the press isn't buying it. And she's their gal.

 

Deleting personal emails is legal. Again, point me to the clear violation?

Fine, then when the emails are released, we'll all be able to see that. And if one person has an email from her during that period, they can release it and destroy her. Seems pretty simple.

Your own quote on this doesn't fit what you're trying to suggest. Read what she said about multiple devices again. Focus on the part about hoarding and not throwing things away, and think about what that means. You can have had both a Blackberry and and iPhone and not carry them both around all the time.

 

I know, I got what you are saying. I wasn't talking about personal email.

Maybe this help. Can you send classified info through even government email? I didn't know and asked. I think you statement just indicated yes. I want to know cause I'm just curious. If you know the internet, anything that goes over it can be cracked potentially. Government server can be cracked. I wouldn't be surprise that there is a policy that no classified info can be electronically delivered over the open internet... but I don't know.

 

Well, since Hillary didn't use a government email account or network, it's irrelevant. She used a private account. And you absolutely can NOT send or discuss any classified material over a private account. Her claim that she didn't send any classified information over four years of using personal email as Secretary of State is laughable. At her level nearly everything she deals with will be classified at some level or another. There is practically a zero percent probability that she is telling the truth about that. It is pretty much not possible.

 

Yea, ok, well, I think we are clear where you stand. Case close, done, guilty as (well, not charged yet, but it doesn't matter b/c she's being protected and the GOP is absolutely powerless to do anything about a crystal clear violation of the law).

 

How do you know what she deleted? You don't. You are just taking her word for it that only personal emails were deleted.

Do you really believe this? The ONLY plausible reason for her use of the personal account is to avoid transparency. Sorry, but convenience and "multiple devices" - which she demonstrably lied about anyway - are not an excuse.

You will see ONLY what Hillary wants you to see. She destroyed everything else. Again, there are huge gaps in what she turned over to State and Gowdy's committee. Do you believe that she went for months without sending any "official business" emails? Really???

LOL really Major? Are you telling me that you actually believe the whole "multiple devices" thing? Even when she demonstrably lied about it? I know you're playing goalie for the home team, but I didn't think you were that stupid.

 

Well yeah, she is quite obviously guilty as hell, but no, she will not be charged. And dammit, it's those darned Republicans' fault. If only they would use the Department of Justice that they control to prosecute her...

 

The claim was that there was a clear violation. If that's the case, there has to be evidence. "She might have done something" does not fit the definition of a clear violation.

That's simply untrue. People use personal accounts to conduct business all the time (and vice versa) - including lots of other government officials, Secretaries of State, and the core staff of the Bush administration.

 

lol, that's what's so funny about all of this. We have Hillary's word - FWIW - that all "official business" emails are to be turned over and archived. She has almost certainly destroyed any incriminating emails - which would explain the ghuge gaps reported. In order to prove that she violated the Federal Records Act, prosecutors (from Loretta Lynch's DoJ, lol again) would have to get their hands on at east one of those emails... That have almost certainly been destroyed. Because they were on her personal server...

She will get away with it, don't you worry Major. But I just find it baffling that anyone could be so dumb as to believe the pile of shiite she shoveled in everyone's faces today.

Federal employees are allowed to occasionally use personal email to conduct business (provided that no classified information is transmitted over that venue[/i]. They are NOT allowed to *exclusively* use private email accounts to conduct official business. Especially if classified information is involved.

Do you believe Hillary's claim that she went four years using personal email to conduct official business and NOT ONCE sent or discussed any classified information via email? Answer honestly. Do you believe that claim?

You do understand that if she destroyed it on her server's end, no one will ever know where to look for the other record, correct?

Shall Mr. Gowdy seek to subpoena everyone who ever had contact with Hillary via email? Is that what will read in the name portion of the subpoena - "everyone who ever had contact with Hillary via email"? SMH...

And again... Vince Foster. Would you send Mr. Gowdy an email that could very likely singlehandedly destroy the only viable Democratic candidate for 2016, and that would likely get you killed? I wouldn't.

Don't forget though, there are likely more than just the recipient involved here. When she takes office on January 20, 2017 the Russians and Chinese and Norks and Iranians and whoever else hacked her servers can simply blackmail her for the duration of her presidency with the emails they stole.

Oh I understand it just fine. Two weeks ago the woman claimed using multiple devices, today she throws out the excuse that she was just trying to use one device. It's all caught on camera. On that point she certainly lied. End of story.

Oh BTW... Did you know it's possible to have multiple accounts on a single device? Technology is so cool nowadays.

Now, I know that you won't read these, and you will justify that by bashing the source, but I will put them here anyway.

Did Hillary Commit a Felony?

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/414835/did-hillary-commit-felony-shannen-coffin

Yes, Hillary Clinton Broke the Law

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/414777/yes-hillary-clinton-broke-law-ian-tuttle

ELECTRONIC CODE OF FEDERAL REGULATIONS

http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?SID=86eb52e506c845f12d3c12cd60e8b207&node=se36.3.1236_122&rgn=div8

I will leave you with this question: In the two years since Hillary has been out of office, has she been in compliance with the Federal Records Act? Was she in compliance with the Electronic Code of Federal Regulations? If someone is not in compliance with the law... what's that called?

Oh, one more:

Trey Gowdy: Hillary Will Have to Answer If Server Not Turned Over

If former secretary of State Hillary Clinton refuses to turn over her server to an independent party, the House Select Committee on Benghazi will ask her to testify about it, committee chairman Trey Gowdy told Fox News.

Appearing Monday on Fox News Channel's "The Kelly File," Gowdy said he plans to give Clinton the opportunity to turn her personal email server over to a neutral independent arbiter, such as a federal judge, an archivist, or an inspector general...

Gowdy said if Clinton doesn't turn over the server, "then we will invite Mrs. Clinton to come see the committee twice and not once. And the first the first time will be to discuss her email arrangement."

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/trey-gowdy-hillary-clinton-private-email/2015/03/09/id/629182/

Odds of seeing Clinton perjure herself before the committee: near 100%.

 

That treeman keeps invoking "Vince Foster", almost like a talisman, tells you all you need to know about his mental health.

 

The breach of security, best practices and (apparently) law aren't as irritating as the excuses. I hope someone emerges in primary season to make her work for her nomination at least.

 

Watching the usual suspects here frothing so early on is going to make watching Hillary's inevitable march to her inauguration incredibly enjoyable.