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[NEW VID RELEASED] Firefighters talk of explosives on @ 9/11

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by ToyCen428, Oct 6, 2010.

  1. Kyrodis

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    Have you ever seen the Pentagon? It's a freakin' fortress of a building. Go watch some episodes of Mythbusters on Discovery Channel and see what happens when they run cars into big solid things. It's not all that different when they run a plane into a structure that's basically a reinforced concrete slab (which I can say with at least a little bit of authority because I do have two engineering degrees).

    At the end of the day we're still talking about a Department of Defense facility. A gaping hole in the side of the building is about as epic as you can get when it comes to a security breach, and they sure as hell couldn't have tapes of any kind floating around.

    ...or I suppose the "simpler" explanation is that the DoD was in on the conspiracy to begin with, along with the rest of the entire bureaucracy, Congress, the White House, CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, and international media outlets like BBC.
     
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    <object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/saHs6J0OXVI?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/saHs6J0OXVI?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>
     
  3. Rip Van Rocket

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    What's sad is that nothing anyone says to ToyCen will ever change his mind about what happened during the 9/11 attacks.
     
  4. ths balla

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    this video should clear up any confusion you may have.....9-11
     
  5. across110thstreet

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    it was nice when ToyCen gave it a rest for about a month or so.

    here we go again.
     
  6. dback816

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    Oh definitely, we gotta confiscate all footage of the plane flying towards the pentagon because god help us all when the terrorists and North Korea figure out that the Pentagon walls can't withstand a freaking 757 smashing into it......our biggest secret must be protected.
     
  7. CrazyDave

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    "... while the metal spoons barely melted at all"

    completely made of awesome. Thanks for that.
     
  8. Kyrodis

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    Any entity that handles sensitive data/information typically overreacts in its policies and procedures. You should see the lengths some companies go to just to protect proprietary information on the off-chance a competitor can potentially get a glimpse of something that's only marginally related to whatever new-fangled product they're trying to sell.

    I can't even imagine what the DoD's standard operating procedures are when it comes to things like paperwork strewn about, office layouts, etc. etc.

    Was is necessary to confiscate all the tapes? (Probably not)
    Was it a little strange? (Sure)
    Is the fact that they confiscated all the tapes indicative of some conspiracy perpetrated by a government hell-bent on establishing a hegemony in Iraq and Afghanistan? (Yeah, I'll go with definitely not)
     
  9. cavevato

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    I dont doubt what you are saying but..... I used to work as a fitter and sometimes part of my job would be to "heat curve" a girder (structural pieces of steel used in highrises and freeways) We were only allowed to heat them so much at a time but sometimes we would cheat a lil to get it to move a lil more. We usually would get the desired result with one or two passes but this one time we couldnt get the steel to budge. We probably put something like 10+ passes of heat. We heated it some much that the steel eventually cracked and made a loud "pop" Now I dont remember if I have ever heard an explosion in my life but if you ask me, it was nothing more than a pop. I imagine an explosion having a rumble and that definetly was not a rumble.

    We would do this heating of the steel w/ hand torches and machined driven torches, so the flame was blue(really hot). I dont know if the fuel of the plane would get hot enough to be a blue flame but even if it was, I find it hard to see how it would make a WHOLE building collapse. I also find it hard to see how the sound of steel cracking could be mistaken as a sound of an explosion. Not saying saying I believe there were explosives at 9-11... Im just saying.
     
  10. basso

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    i've seen video of the pentagon plane crossing the highway shortly before impact.

    this one provides a pretty good angle.
     
  11. trustme

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    Why don't they release the footage from highways that must have caught the plane flying over it. That footage for sure must not have any "sensitive data/information" that could cause a "security breach" into the Pentagon.

    If they just show us the plane in some of these videos, it would lay to rest all of this conspiracy surrounding the Pentagon attack. Until then, people are definitely going to conspire.
     
  12. ToyCen428

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    ok guys bear with me, just got off work and will try and reply to everyone.

    Another funny thing is, a year or two before the attacks, a handbook was given to every emergency personnel worker in NYC... on the front there was a picture of the twin towers, with a "target-like" circle on the towers and the books explains/trains workers on what to do in case of an emergency, that of planes hitting the twin towers.
     
  13. ToyCen428

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    FYI... I have PLENTY of videos showing flashes on the lower floors of the towers hours before the collapse. Upon request, I'll show you. Just LMK.
     
  14. ToyCen428

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    Right on my friend. Somewhere, I heard a number of over 120 security cameras (from and around the Pentagon) that should've recorded the plane hitting the building. That scenario, combined with stories such as one of the employees at the Pentagon, walked out of the HOLE the plane hit, and recalls not seeing any: plane parts, luggage, dead passengers, ect...

    Have you seen a NORMAL plane crash? I have, and this stuff is visible. If a plane crashed there, you would've seen it.

    And before someone tells me of a low flying plane people witnessed, my response to you is the DOOMSDAY plane that was videotaped flying over the Pentagon.

    Some of you may find this interesting... the military was reporting there was a 2nd EXPLOSION a good 20-30 minutes after the plane hit the Pentagon.

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  15. ToyCen428

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    No one says it has to be melted before it can collapse, but the fact of the matter is molten steel was present at the World Trade Center... a STEEL building.
     
  16. LonghornFan

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    So when are you growing out your beard, buying land in Montana and loading up on guns and ammunition?

    Tie your tubes before it's too late...please.
     
  17. ToyCen428

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    Detailed and explained? Explained is the explanation you just gave. But to say that's exactly what happened is absurd. Look at it this way, if controlled explosives were set up in the WTC to go off one at a time, that's exactly what it would look like.

    The fact that the flashes were present before, and DURING the collapse of the building holds up strong the speculation of explosives.
     
  18. ToyCen428

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    Motive would be to go to war. It's called a False Flag operation. It's happened before in the past, in fact one of the best examples if President Kennedy rejected a Red Flag plan that was laid on his desk describing the U.S. would bomb our own ships, blame it on Cuba, so the get the public going along with the notion of going to war.

    This is fact.
     
  19. macalu

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    why do you guys even bother?
     
  20. LonghornFan

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    Demolition experts have said on many different occasions, to plant implosion TNT in a building this large would take months, and a completely empty building. It's not like they could just sneak in the middle of the night and plant enough charges to take down a 100 story building.

    BTW- Was Pearl Harbor faked too to pull us into WWII?

    It's really not even worth arguing about. You're going to continue to ignore reality no matter what is said.
     

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