Yes, they do get that kind of money. They are 2nd tier stars at best. Rudy Gay, Joe Johnson, Amare Stoudemire are overpaid. They will be like Antoine Walker and Juwan Howard, the only difference is inflation of the max contract.
Ok, so if D'Antoni gets 2 superstars, "Amare" and "JJ". Then, they should have at least a 0.500 record, right? Before Nash, D'Antoni had Amare, JJ, Marion, and Barbosa. Amare had injury issues before the All-star break. The Suns post-all star record is 11-16(0.407), which would be 33 wins for a 82 game season.
Man.. They are losing alot by sending out David Lee. Hear they are going to trade for Monta Ellis. Regardless they are going to be better next season. Luckily, we have Morey. Even if the picks are mid 1st rounders he will still pick the right man...
Yeah I keep hoping the big 3 all re-sign with their existing clubs. That will leave the free agent market a no-mans land with a **** load of cap space available which will trigger ****ty teams like New York to panic and way overpay scrub players to fill the void. Of course we don't want them too horrible since the 2012 pick is top 5 protected.
Stoudemire's offer is contingent on James coming to NY. The 2011 draft pick will look really good, if NY is waiting for Carmelo, next year. http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5355032
Dirk and Pierce get 16 mil, while Rudy Gay gets $20 mil. Rudy Gay must be better than Dirk and Pierce.
Something tells me that If they miss out on all the big stars this off season, they're going to try and sell their fan's on Carmelo Anthony and Kevin Durant availability next off-season.... :grin: --RB
Look at the Knicks' summer league roster. You can count on at least 5 of these players being on the regular season roster. I have bolded their rookies and the previous season's regular season players. Those picks look better every day. Code: 2010 NEW YORK KNICKS SUMMER LEAGUE ROSTER No Player Pos Ht Wt Born College/Country 2009-10 Team 55 Eric Boateng C 6-10 257 Nov. 20, 1985 Arizona State Arizona State (NCAA) 2 Jaycee Carroll G 6-1 187 Apr. 16, 1983 Utah State Gran Canarias (Spain) 41 Warren Carter F 6-9 220 Apr. 23, 1985 Illinois Ilisiakos (Greece) [B]23 Toney Douglas G 6-2 190 May 25, 1987 Florida State New York (NBA) [/B] 0 Patrick Ewing, Jr. F 6-8 240 May 20, 1984 Georgetown Reno (NBADL) 18 Olu Famutimi G 6-5 220 Feb. 21, 1984 Arkansas Oyak Renault (Turkey) [B]4 Landry Fields G/F 6-7 215 Jul. 27, 1987 Stanford Stanford (NCAA) [/B] 35 Charles Garcia F 6-10 230 Oct. 13, 1988 Seattle Seattle (NCAA) 17 Ron Howard G 6-5 200 Nov. 14, 1982 Valparaiso Valparaiso (NCAA) 31 Chris Hunter F/C 6-11 240 Jul. 7, 1984 Michigan Golden State (NBA) [B]11 Marcus Landry F 6-7 230 Nov. 1, 1985 Wisconsin Boston/New York (NBA) [/B] 40 Leo Lyons F 6-9 225 May 25, 1987 Missouri Hapoel Jerusalem (Israel) 45 Carlos Powell F 6-7 225 Aug. 29, 1983 South Carolina Albuquerque (NBADL) [B]20 Andy Rautins G 6-4 194 Nov. 2, 1986 Syracuse Syracuse (NCAA) 5 Bill Walker G/F 6-6 230 May 25, 1987 Kansas State New York/Boston [/B] 25 Ryan Wittman F 6-7 210 Oct. 26, 1987 Cornell Cornell (NCAA)
I believe the part you quoted means that the Knicks will get Stoudemire unless (1) Lebron is coming AND (2) Lebron wants to the Knicks to use their salary slot for someone other than Stoudemire (for example, Bosh). Doubt that's gonna happen.
The value of the picks will be known after that season....right now.....there is no telling. And no matter whom they sign, there are injuries, chemistry, and other issues to having a successful season. I think the picks are decently valuable, but are a big unknown. After Free Agency, if they don't get 2 big names, the value will go up. Keep them and use them at the trade deadline. DD
Just have to say that is an awesome name. Heck he could be a wrestler and not even change his name just call himself "Leo the Lyon!!" To the point, I think most everyone expected these picks to be more valuable this year for trades and always expected Knicks to get a few average to slightly above-average players in the Rockets' best case scenario to put them at or about #7 to #12 in the draft in 2011 and probably in the playoffs for the 2012 draft. The real hope for the 2011 pick is not where they end up, but more that they they "win" the 2nd or 3rd pick in the lottery, in which case being from #7 to #11 makes little difference. One thing to also take into consideration is that there seems to be a general consensus that the next CBA will markedly change the pay scales and max contracts for stars and superstar players. If that is to happen, I would assume they were also change the rookie pay scale. That would have major impact on the picks. If they reduce the pay scale in proportion, I would argue that the 1st round picks would increase in value, where as if they do not really mess with the current scale, they would decrease in value because with the similar amount of money you pay for a high pick that would take time to develop you can get a pretty good established player that can play well now. (This is something I really wonder how it will affect on going developments such as the Rubio-Minnesota situation. Which pay scale/CBA would he fall under? Is he grand fathered into the old pay scale even though he did not sign a legal contract yet? Who knows.) Anyways, the best situation for the Rockets right now are exactly what they are doing, which is to use them to get a superstar (though Bosh is not exactly the one I want) before the 2011 draft and the value will be set. Perceived value for picks is always higher than actual value, because even just one person's perception can add value to the picks and increase the return you can get.
Disagree. The perceived value for the 14th pick was that Patterson would not be there. Patterson was there so the actual value was higher than the perception.
I think part of his point was that the lack of protection on the 2011 pick swap allows for the possibility--whatever that might be--that the pick COULD be #2 or #3 overall. It is VERY rare that a traded pick has such little protection. The Knicks' unprotected 2010 pick that went to the Jazz was only unprotected because Isiah stupidly insisted on top-22 protection for, like, 5 years and then let it drop off completely (rather than convert to multiple second rounders or cash). The mere possibility of getting a lottery pick even if it lands in the top 3 does add a premium on the pick.
