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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by TheHorns, Sep 13, 2003.

  1. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    We have gotten everything we have deserved since getting rid of old Fred Akers. It's Karma.
     
  2. ima_drummer2k

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    Mack Brown quotes:

    On if Texas played well ...
    "I really do think so if we didn't give up those plays. They had seven explosive plays and that's way too many. We played very well a lot of the time in some areas and when you lose, nobody recognizes that."

    On what happens the day after the game ...
    "I have met with each side of the ball this morning. After a loss you're too critical because you're never as good as you looked after a 66-7 win, and you're never as bad as you looked after a 38-28 loss."

    On the positive performances ...
    "A lot of guys played very well. It's just that when we give up some big plays and get beat, we don't recognize them."

    We need a new coach......
     
  3. Smokey

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    After this season, I believe most of the Mack Brown defenders will realize that he just is not a good coach. We are loaded for a run at the national championship, but we will lose at least 3 games and play in the Cotton or Holiday Bowl.
     
  4. Cohen

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    Not a 'good' coach, or not the best coach on the planet?

    You only need to look at the man's record to see he's a good coach. Maybe not in the top 2 or 3, but he's very very good.
     
  5. Smokey

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    No, his record tells me he is a very very good recruiter.
     
  6. Cohen

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    That's all a part of his job.

    What about Akers, McWilliams and Mackovic? Were they all great coaches and crappy recruiters? So what, they couldn't get results.

    If recruiting is 50% of it and he is either 1 or 2 in the country in that area, and he's winning at an 85% clip, I think he's earned the right to take years to win it all.
     
  7. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Trev Alberts is on Tony Kornheisor's show right now talking about how soft Texas is, and how we are soft because we only practice the passing game all spring and summer (something I happen to agree with).
     
  8. ima_drummer2k

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    His talent wins him games (over inferior opponents I might add), not his coaching. If the teams are evenly matched, he'll lose. See UNC's record against FSU and UT's record against OU.
     
  9. Smokey

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    Are you satisfied playing for the Cotton Bowl every year? Once players realize that is the best a Mack Brown team can do, his recruiting will tail off. He has not earned the right to take years to win it all. He hasn't even won a conference title yet and our rival owns us. I expect improvement every year. What I'm seeing is he wins a lot of games, but lays eggs here and there, and the eggs cost us chances to take the program to the next level. He said the running game was fixed. It still sucks. He said our defense could stop the run. We let an unranked team come into our house and run for 265 yards. He is stubborn and will not make changes. If he did, I wouldn't have a problem with him.
     
  10. TheHorns

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    Let me preface this by saying Trev is right...

    Fvck Trev Alberts!


    I still say the key to our offense succeeding, and get tougher would be resolved if Mack would quit recruiting O-linemen.
     
  11. Bogey

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    It's funny, over at A&M we went through years and years of having this same discussion over RC. He used to be a great recruiter that could not win the big games. Eventually, when you can't win the big games, the recruits begin to see right through the sales pitch and go elsewhere.
     
  12. Smokey

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    The irony, Mack's arrival led to RC's demise, and now Fran's arrival will lead to Mack's demise.

    Longhorn fans have already penciled in a W on T+1, but it is going to be a war (Fran will have the aggy ready), and with Mack's history of laying eggs, I wouldn't be surprised if aggy won.
     
  13. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    The guy beat Nebraska in Nebraska breaking a 50+ game winning streak. He can coach, is he a great X's and O's coach, no, but he can coach. As far as the running game is concerned, Cedric Benson hasn't been the same since trying to clean up another Chris Simms mistake, when he got the concussion against Colorado trying to make the tackle after the interception.

    Longhorns fans want to know what Texas's biggest problem is. It's us. You guys act like we're Miami, like National championships is a birth rite. I hear guys call the radio station and talk about championships from the Darrel Royal era, and most of them aren't even 25 years old. And believe me, this mentality affects the players. The best thing that could happen to U.T. is for Austin to get a pro sports team, because these guys are treated like Gods in the city without accomplishing anything.

    It's like bigtexxx posted in the other thread, nobody even wants to give credit to Arkansas, like its an automatic that we are supposed to beat them. They had probably the best offensive lineman in the country, and their quarterback played way above his level. Give credit where credit is do, the most hillarious thing I hear is when Longhorns call Mack whinny, and talk about his excuses. That's par for the course from the Longhorn community.

    Get a grip folks, the season is not over yet, If you thought they were supposed to win a National Championship this year, your expectations were way to high. Last year's team was supposed to win the National Championship, or at least contend, this team is still a season away and Saturday it showed.
     
  14. Cohen

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    Give me a break. Those aren't just 'big games', those teams were consistently in the running for national champion when Mack played them.
     
  15. Smokey

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    Can we expect to beat OU this year or are we a season away again? I guess we can put off the Big 12 Championship for a couple of years too.
     
  16. Cohen

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    If and when that happens, that will be his downfall.

    But also be aware that players come for their future, not just a national championship. If Mack shows results on draft day, he will still get great recruits on signing day.
     
  17. TheHorns

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    aggy loss = Mack's bags packed for him

    After this crap and the likely chance we lose at least 2 more regular season games. He would not be allowed back in the office to pack his own ****.

    I have N E V E R before this loss called for Mack's head, and the reason I did this time is b/c it ia all too obvious, he does not think there is anything wrong.

    That is a problem. He has stood by his people to a fault, and both players and staff alike has returned that support to him. But soon there will be an individual or group who will value winning more than anything and they will call Mack out or leave, and open some eyes.

    NO COACH IN HISTORY DO I HATE AS MUCH AS THIS MAN BUT...

    When I heard Jimmy Johnson say this a few years back, it stuck with me, and now I see what he meant.

    He said "I am not a good coach, I am a good administrator who surrounds himself with great coaches."

    What is Mack?
     
  18. Cohen

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    Why? Did we already lose a Big 12 game?
     
  19. Smokey

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    If we can't beat OU, we're probably not playing in the Championship game.
     
  20. Cohen

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    Are you KIDDING?!

    What 'history' are you talking about?

    I've been a Longhorn fan since 1973. I've been through enough dryspells since the scholarship rules changed to be pretty damn happy with 11 win seasons.

    Put a few more of those 4 and 5 win seasons with other coaches under your belt, then tell me this coach sucks.
     

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